Wow can't believe this thread has gone three pages.

Hey a Boxster is about the best value for the money out there. Plus unless viewed from the rear everyone thinks it's a 911. But that works both ways.....every time I see a 996/997/991 coming at me I think "oh look another Boxster" until I see the rear end. Pretty sad the cars look so much the same.... Especially sad for 911 owners and who paid $100k for what looks like a Boxster from the front.

I've never been a 914 fan but at least I can tell it apart from a 911 on the road.

@winders, ever been to a go kart 'track'? Most sprint tracks are too small for an autocross. But, it's a track. How 'bout a bike track or an 1/8 mile oval track? Have you run track on the track at high school? So, if hairs are to be split, put that in your pipe and inhale it.

A track is any place where competition is run continuously on a closed circuit for a pre determined distance.

Back to the the Boxster v. 914 discussion: I see where the prices of each are starting to converge. I'm sure that means to winders that the price reflects that a Boxster is a crappy as a 914. To others it might mean the uncle of the Boxster being one of the only other mid engine Porsche designed cars has come full circle to a place of respect.

It's still a 70's car. No fair in directly comparing it to a 1997.

@Zeke: Sorry, karts aren't cars and an autocross course is not a track. Heck, most autocross courses don't even connect to make a continuous course! Most often an autocross is setup in a big parking lot or old airfield. Traffic cones just don't delineate a "track".

Back to the 914 issue........I don't think the 914 is "crappy". Nor is the Boxster.

Scott

You hang out with a tough crowd Zeke.
I look at Speedster kit cars with envy. They are disposable, whereas my steel bodied one - now that it's worth as much as my house I'm afraid to drive it in traffic anymore.

Now i know why Boxsters are so disparaged.

Now here is a proper girly Boxster giving cup cars fits.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/...25430B9A7F.jpg

A track marked out by cones is not a track? We have sprint(timed 1 lap) tracks in UK marked out on airfields by cones and speeds of 140mph are often achieved. What about a track delineated by oil drums and haybales? The first British Grand Prix was like that, as were countless Formula 3 races.

Anyone saying that the 914 isn't sought after must not be paying attention. Nice driver 4-cylinder 914s that were $4k a few years ago are now $10k cars, and true (not converted) 914-6 are well into the $20k range. I think the early 911 price explosion has helped the value of all classic Porsches.

As for the Boxster, anyone claiming that they aren't good cars frankly doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. I've owned six 911s and one 986 Boxster, it was the funnest of the bunch to drive. For the price that they are selling for right now they are a bargain. The only reason I'm not driving one is my need for more seating, though I'm seriously considering buying a Boxster and a beater sedan/SUV so I have kid hauling room when required. They are fantastic cars.

Ive had several early 911's. I still have a Boxster. It's just fun to drive and has been very reliable, and at what there selling for now it's just cheap to own.

Though I'm sure they excel at the practice, I've never been blown by a tranny either. Sometimes the destination isn't worth the trip :)

I wonder about the reading comprehension here.....

I said "an autocross course is not a track".

Do you understand that string of words?

Scott

@winders, I think you're alone on an island on this. You can of course believe what you think is true. However, there is no reason to challenge anyone's reading comprehension because of the fact that few tend to agree with you.

If your car happens to be the one in your avatar with the monster wing, I can see why you think that anything that isn't fully track prepared isn't a track car.

lendaddy, I will admit that my wife is the one that picked out a Boxster as the car to replace the 356 I sold out from under her. That's another story.

Once we got it, I drove it some back 10 years ago. I've hustled that car in the canyons and chased the pack on the straight up to...well, you know. Then I decided to not drive the car because it is definitely better than I am. When that's the case, you end up getting hurt.

But just approaching the limit in a Boxster where all four tires are screaming at a good clip in a corner and you begin to see what the car has to offer. Until you realize that it takes a very skilled driver to wring out any more in the car, the destination is worth exploring. It's not that the car is difficult, it's not. It's just capable of doing more than most know how to do. Any car review will tell you the same.

I bought my 914 4 years ago. I inquired to a couple about 914-6 conversions. They laughed and told me to buy a Boxster. I drove my 914 for 4 years along side my Mazda 3. Then I bought a Boxster. I'm still doing a /6 conversion - but boy that Boxster is fun to drive. I think the Cayman is nicer looking - but they aren't cheap enough when I can get a low mileage mint condition Boxster S for under $20k.

As for the 911 - why do I want a sports car with backseats? :D But more seriously - the Boxster/Cayman are capable of more than most can do yet are tons cheaper. Sounds like a good deal to me. I just don't think the 911 is worth it.

Wow. Now you are just making stuff up. No where did I say or even suggest that a car's level of preparation had ANYTHING to do with whether or not it was a "track car".

Pretty much all I have said is that an autocross course is not a race track and that the 914 with a VIN that does not start with "914" is in no way "sought after" for street or track these days.

Scott

You're right, it was an assumption. Was I correct about the prep?

The car in my avatar is my car, is a race car, and is seriously "prepped". I still don't know what it has to do with anything.

I have nothing against Boxsters, 914s, or cars less "prepped" than mine.

Scott

How low will their prices go?

Winders , it is you that has an attention span insufficient to read a full submission- I posted that early Formula 1 tracks were delineated by oil drums and straw bales (this prior to the invention of the trafic cone incidentally).You actually quoted it without taking it in-doh

It is a macho thing right? Boxsters are for girls? Costs less? Entry level? I own two 911s (996) and a Boxster. I enjoy driving the Boxster. Actually holds a turn tighter then my 996.Any one who's really looking at a Boxster now would be crazy not to jump on these vehicles. Especially at the current prices.;)