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It seems like most magazines are in bed with the manufacturers. They never seem to trash a car even if it is crap.

How can you be biased when your test cars are coming from the manufacturers?

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Old 09-14-2013, 08:47 AM
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There are lots of complaints about the formatting, but I am mostly ok with it. I liked it better before but I can adapt. The thing that irritates me to no end is having the last page of every article put to the back. WTF!?

I still find that there are a few funny bits and the performance test results and technical stuff is still there on occasion (the Corvette issue). The weird thing is Car and Driver used to be side-splittingly funny but less technical. Road and Track was serious and technical. Now the two seem to be blending into one, meeting somewhere in the middle but all jumbled up. Car and Driver measures the CG heights and other vehicle dynamic parameters that interest me now that they team up with Cayman Dynamics. So Car and Driver is more techy than Road and Track.

With Peter Egan gone though it makes more sense to only read Car and Driver.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:17 AM
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I was hoping he'd take a chance on buying an old 911 and driving it for awhile before the end but alas, he's got that incurable Brit car fever.
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Old 09-14-2013, 12:32 PM
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I was hoping he'd take a chance on buying an old 911 and driving it for awhile before the end but alas, he's got that incurable Brit car fever.
He owned a Boxster S for a while and loved it. Not sure if he still has it or not. He also likes American cars- the Cadillac and Bullit come to mind.
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Old 09-14-2013, 12:33 PM
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:35 PM
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He's gone through a bunch of stuff. He had an early miata, one of the new minis when they came out, a boxster, etc...

Every column/article of his was a pleasure and interesting to read.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:46 PM
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"Fortunately 15% of the magazine is now made up of weather tech floor mat ads, which make for better reading than the articles."

That Weather Tech stuff does look nice ! I wish Weather Tech was around back in the day 35 years ago when I was living in Northern Illinois.
Too bad the rest of R & T is not so good. I wonder what Rob Walker would think of R&T these days?
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Peter was the only reason I kept r&t for so long. Now, so long r&t.
Old 09-15-2013, 12:41 PM
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Read Side Glances in the October issue. There won't be a SG in every issue from here on out, but he is not leaving, he is scaling back (by choice) and will still be doing articles from time to time.

I'm not crazy about the new R&T either, but I'm warming to it, and he is Editor-at-Large. I wonder if there was a mass exodus because he's not in every issue, if it might end up cutting into his slice of the pie. Probably not, but I'm staying for now.
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I cancelled my subscription when they went to the new format. They just tried to get me to re-up last month for 3 years for $8.00- I was tempted, but then I remembered why I opted out in the first place.
Too bad about Peter - I ran into at Sebring (the 12 Hours) a couple of times.
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....so..... Cycle World has a new ADD format too, all articles look like ads.... awful, awful. Magazine version of the once trendy "phrentic" style of film editing.
Old 09-16-2013, 07:26 AM
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It seems like most magazines are in bed with the manufacturers. They never seem to trash a car even if it is crap.

How can you not be biased when your test cars are coming from the manufacturers?
Fixed for you
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:37 PM
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"Fortunately 15% of the magazine is now made up of weather tech floor mat ads, which make for better reading than the articles."

That Weather Tech stuff does look nice ! I wish Weather Tech was around back in the day 35 years ago when I was living in Northern Illinois.
Too bad the rest of R & T is not so good. I wonder what Rob Walker would think of R&T these days?
I stopped reading Weathertech when they dropped this woman from their advertising.



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Old 09-20-2013, 10:10 AM
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Peter was in a Brit-com back in the eighties. I just watched him in a film on Netflix Death at a Funeral. I'll have to see if I can read some of his articles.

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