"Chicken" Nuggets

[Hugh R]

And how do you know it wasn't a used kitchen sink sponge that had been bleached?

[Zyglo]

Just exactly how do you think the nerve cells and other non-muscular tissues got into those samples???


Maybe you should stick to the fries.

[Hugh R]

If you bothered to read the report, it didn't even say whose "nuggets" they were that had never cells and non-muscular tissues.
Again, two samples don't make any kind of sampling database. Just because two samples showed something you think all of the industry is the same?

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

And how do you know it wasn't a used kitchen sink sponge that had been bleached?

LOL, I don't. But considering how many McNuggets they sell that would be a **** ton of sponges.

Still, it's possible.

I gave up eating that crap decades ago.

Every now and the I'll eat at McD's or BK for no reason other than it's what is available and I need to eat.

Regret it every time.

Grudgingly would let my kids eat fast food occasionally but now that they are old enough to understand the basic concepts of nutrition they have no interest what so ever.

[Zyglo]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

Just because two samples showed something you think all of the industry is the same.

I am going to respond despite your personal attack.

Nobody said anything about the entire industry (and it is an industry isn't it? a food factory).

This has nothing to do with statistics, not that you know much about that either.

The simple fact is that the tests to detect tissue types are highly unlikely to show a false positive for nerve cells.

So we know that some 'manufacturers' are grinding up tissues that are not muscle, which is what people expect when they eat chicken (except Southerners, of course).

You may want to give up your career as a "scientist" and find something else to do. Whatever it is, it should be something where your tendency to jump to conclusions will cause no harm, and where your tendency to attack people doesn't either. Try to keep your junk in your trunk.

[911pcars]

Folks, this is a product prepared by the fast food industry - a multi-billion dollar industry - the food they sell isn't the same as grocery store food. The meat they use for hamburgers is adulterated and manufactured to taste and look like the real stuff.

The chicken they offer is a complementary product - manufactured to taste real while maximizing profits. And since all the various brands are independently in competition for your fast food budget, the level of quality will vary. The nutritional and content labels might provide some indication. YMMV.

Sherwood

[Joe Bob]

Why would you eat that crap anyways?

OR even be surprised when a report comes out that it regurgitated, flaked, pre formed glorp?

Since I stopped buying processed fast foods I LIKE food now. The fast food industry cooks only to a certain "needed" temp. To me it all tasted like undercooked cardboard.....

BTW, Webbie.....warn people when the link has an ad that you can't turn off or the volume is at an insane height, wouldya?

Some people wear earphones.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by Joe Bob

regurgitated, flaked, pre formed glorp?

.

Yes well, that sums up this thread pretty well...

But let's face it. To some, their body is a temple, to others, it is a Chikken Shack.



Plenty of starving people in the world would like a little pre formed glorp. Maybe we should seek them out and tell them what to eat, and how they should feel about it.

Like we do to everybody here... So,

Would you like fries with your whine ???

[flipper35]

I only eat them for the hot mustard sauce. Well that and the fact that the burgers are way too salty to eat and the Big Mac is a powerful laxative for me.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

Re: the article, they analyzed exactly two nuggets to draw their conclusions. And didn't say where they came from. In scientific circles this would be considered pretty poor research.

It's quite a stretch to think that out of all the billions of chicken nuggets made, they happened to pick the only two, from two different sources, that contained blood vessels, nerve tissue and bone. If you were looking for trace amounts of something a larger sample would surely be required, but a sample of two is good enough to determine the basic elements that go into the product.
In Zyglo's example, you might have to examine a hundred crankshafts to find out if there was a recurring manufacturing flaw, but you would only have to examine one or two to conclude that they are generally made of steel.

[911pcars]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

It's quite a stretch to think that out of all the billions of chicken nuggets made, they happened to pick the only two, from two different sources, that contained blood vessels, nerve tissue and bone. If you were looking for trace amounts of something a larger sample would surely be required, but a sample of two is good enough to determine the basic elements that go into the product.
In Zyglo's example, you might have to examine a hundred crankshafts to find out if there was a recurring manufacturing flaw, but you would only have to examine one or two to conclude that they are generally made of steel.

It's not as though the test samples were from a random sampling of like products prepared by various sources. As reported, the samples were products from two unnamed but well-known fast-food corporations. "Chicken nuggets" aren't made to order. One would assume the recipes for this product are consistent with their respective manufacturing processes. It's the same as an examination of the inside of two golf balls from Nike or Wilson - their construction and materials would represent how they're designed and manufactured.

Granted, examining one out of a million Nike golf balls could be fairly representative - a sampling of two balls with the same result = higher validity. Customers don't expect to ingest randomly-made products, and fast-food manufacturers rely on consistency to attract and retain customers. It's not as though this recent study revealed earth-shaking news. If so, folks should engage more in the pastime of people-watching.

A well-known, but often dismissed film:


YHMV (your health may vary)

Sherwood

[Hugh R]

Not saying many of the manufacturer's of nuggets don't use nerves and stuff. I'm just saying two nuggets doesn't mean they all use the junk.

[Turbo_pro]

Checken nuggets???
Everyone knows that chickens don't have nuggets, roosters do.

[GO DAWG GO]

Hugh...You are a patient man....Put the idiot on ignore...he's a troll...
Anybody that would advertise Zyglo...Magneflux...and not understand a simple universal acronym like NDT...

Lets really confuse him with a process called "Penetrate inspection"...he probably thinks its a colonoscopy..

Starve the troll......

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

If you bothered to read the report, it didn't even say whose "nuggets" they were that had never cells and non-muscular tissues.
Again, two samples don't make any kind of sampling database. Just because two samples showed something you think all of the industry is the same?

I believe yer wasting your time, just put him on ignore and be done with it.
Unless he gets banned and comers back with a different screen name

[RWebb]

sorry about the noise JB, I didn't realize that

I have to say this was not intended to rile up the crazy people, but has turned into an interesting psychological Rorschach blot

Now, has this thread made any of you switch from nuggets to Foster Farms Salmonella chicken?

[kach22i]

Hooked on chicken nuggets: Girl, 17, who has eaten nothing else since age TWO rushed to hospital after collapsing
Stacey Irvine, 17, collapses after eating only McDonald's chicken nuggets since age 2 | Mail Online

Ever since she was a toddler, Stacey Irvine has eaten little else but chicken nuggets and the occasional portion of chips.
Now, at the age of 17, she has been warned by doctors to change her appalling diet or die.
The factory worker – who says she has never tasted fresh fruit or vegetables – had to be taken to hospital earlier this week when she collapsed after struggling to breathe.

Stacey Irvine, 17, collapses after eating only McDonald's chicken nuggets since age 2 | Mail Online


I expected her to look a little worse to be honest.

[911pcars]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

Not saying many of the manufacturer's of nuggets don't use nerves and stuff. I'm just saying two nuggets doesn't mean they all use the junk.

That's true. That test didn't condemn all fast food companies.

Not to assume too much, but when you think of two sources of chicken nuggets, you might respond with two of the biggest names in fast food. How many are there, and how different are their nugget products from each other?

Another way to look at it: What fast food companies use whole chicken in their chicken nuggets?

Not sure why some here are defending the use of veins, cartilage, gristle, filler, sugar and chemicals in a food product advertised as "chicken". Perhaps, "tastes good, more filling" trumps other concerns.

S

[Hugh R]

Not defending it at all. I'm just saying analysis of two nuggets doesn't mean they are a representative sample to make any kind of a reasonable or statistical conclusion on much of anything.

Now if they'd done say 30 or 40 analysis from different vendors/manufacturers and found 10%, 20%, 50%, etc. had some of the junk mentioned above, then they might have had something meaningful to say. BTW, I'm pretty sure a whole lot of the creators of this "miracle food" use lots of parts that they don't want to advertise. I think the whole nugget thing was a way to use more, less desirable chicken parts.

With nuggets you are probably less likely to get Salmonella poisoning, at least they've been already cooked, versus bringing a Foster Farm's chicken into your kitchen, cutting it up on your wood cutting board, wiping down the board and the counter with a sponge and then using the same cutting board, counter and sponge to cut up your salad fixings.

[911pcars]

I just received this in my email. Industrial food processing: