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Gunman & shooting in Paramus NJ - Garden State Mall

Still developing story. Mall is surrounded by police, FBI, law enforcement.

No casualties found - but shots fired - not sure how many - some reports say multiple shots fired, others say only one shot fired.

Confusing scene -- gunman still at large.

I drive by this mall on my daily commute.

Link to local new article: Shooter At Large At Garden State Plaza Mall In New Jersey « CBS New York

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“We found one shell casing, which I believe was from a long-armed rifle,” Paramus Office of Emergency Management deputy coordinator Jim Tedesco said
A "long-armed rifle"? Sounds scary!
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A "long-armed rifle"? Sounds scary!
Ban the long armed rifles!!!

News report I saw last night said no injuries. Maybe he was just out to scare people?
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He was found with a self inflicted wound and is dead. They said it appeared that he did not want to harm anyone else but commit suicide. He was also a drug addict.

The rifle was made to look like an AK and was his brother's.

Look how much $ the state of NJ saved.
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It seems from what I read that its only men that run amok with guns in the US. Why not disarm all the men and give the guns to women instead?
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it seems from what i read that its only men that run amok with guns in the us. Why not disarm all the men and give the guns to women instead?
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It seems from what I read that its only men that run amok with guns in the US. Why not disarm all the men and give the guns to women instead?
You have a point petrolhead. However it seems that folks will kill by any means in other countries if guns are not readily available. For instance knives, swords etc. Guns just do it quicker and the perp gets to do more harm before he is caught....
Notice I said he and not she.
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Somehow I think men could still get guns if they gave them all to women. They disarmed everybody in the UK and the criminals seem to have no issue getting guns...
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Somehow I think men could still get guns if they gave them all to women. They disarmed everybody in the UK and the criminals seem to have no issue getting guns...
It's Bush's fault.
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WTF is going on lately? Is this a re-run of the wild, wild west?
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I would surmise that a person would be more likely to die a natural death in the UK than in the US. I don't hear of many shootings in the UK...

OTH I would prefer living in the US than the UK in spite of the gun culture. I would take my chances in the US - it is a huge country and has a lot going for it even if the politics are wonky....
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WTF is going on lately? Is this a re-run of the wild, wild west?
It certainly seems that way. Maybe we hear about it more nower days.
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In the old days, people just killed themselves in the privacy of their own homes. Consequence of our media driven, look-at-me society?
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Yeah, that could be, Matt.
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WTF is going on lately? Is this a re-run of the wild, wild west?
The wild, wild west wasn't all that wild.

You were more likely to die of boredom than a gunshot or arrow wound. However, that doesn't make for good TV, does it?
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In the old days, people just killed themselves in the privacy of their own homes. Consequence of our media driven, look-at-me society?
Could be a valid point here, Matt. However, people who killed themselves at home usually did it out of sheer depression and/or desperation. It seems that a lot of today's shootings are fueled more by anger, so they feel they need to take it out on those who have "wronged" them...or any unfortunate bystander.
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My guess is that initially he didn't want to do it himself, and this was an attempted suicide by cop.

Seems like he did the deed himself.
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Could be a valid point here, Matt. However, people who killed themselves at home usually did it out of sheer depression and/or desperation. It seems that a lot of today's shootings are fueled more by anger, so they feel they need to take it out on those who have "wronged" them...or any unfortunate bystander.
True. Maybe a byproduct of the modern "it's not my fault" school of thinking?
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I hate to be the old man here but I swear ultra violent video games (fps types) have GOT to be contributing significantly to this.
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It seems from what I read that its only men that run amok with guns in the US. Why not disarm all the men and give the guns to women instead?
Fabulous! Red hair, estrogen, and a loaded gun. What could go wrong?

All teasing, I'm a gun owner, and very careful, very conservative, and very responsible regarding the handling of firearms.

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