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Which one?

Winchester 70?
Remington 700?
Browning A-Bolt?

It will be 30-06...

I'm leaning towards a Browning Stainless Stalker. It is so frigg'n humid here, I try to default to Stainless.

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Old 11-21-2013, 05:34 PM
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I own all 3

The Remington is the most accurate.

The Browning is the prettiest. I really like the detachable magazine.

The Winchester is a accuracy crap shoot, odds are good.
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I really like my 700 in 8mm mauser. Want me to bring it over so you can try it out?
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New or used?

Oh, hell - either way I would go with the M70. It's a better hunting rifle in every respect than either the Remington or Browning. I'm not a fan of the new trigger (the original has the best hunting trigger ever put on a bolt gun), so I would look for either a pre-'64 or a newer "pre-'64" built in the last years of USRA.

Don't worry too much about stainless. I live and hunt up here in the Pacific Northwest. Rust has never been an issue on my carbon steel guns.
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I've been hunting with a Weatherby Vanguard .30-06 for about 8 years. 100% happy with it. Moderately priced tack driver. Brought home some meat with it on Monday!
Old 11-21-2013, 07:52 PM
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I have the Win and the Rem. The Win is dead nuts accurate @ 300 yds. I'll let you know Sunday if it still is.
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I go by which one looks/feels better to me.
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Neither... unless they are older specimens... quality control has gone to crap on the Remington and Winchester end...

Howa, Tikka, Savage, or Zastava mauser (imported by many cos over the years - Interarms, Remington, Charles Daly, latest is Century). All 4 inexpensive, but quality items. Spend your savings on good glass.

FWIW I wouldn't go '06 either - 308 for me...
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I've been hunting with a Weatherby Vanguard .30-06 for about 8 years. 100% happy with it. Moderately priced tack driver. Brought home some meat with it on Monday!
The Vanguard is made by Howa ... same as the Howa 1500, just a different name on it
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Totally a tanget, but:

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I really like my 700 in 8mm mauser. Want me to bring it over so you can try it out?
Wow -- that caught me off guard. This is something you will NEVER hear anyone say in the nanny state of NJ.

NJ gun owners are only allowed the transport of firearms in the following instances:
1. From the spoon store to owner's residence. (No deviation).
2. From the owner's residence to a spoon shop (for repair or sale). (No deviation).
3. From the owner's residence to a spoon range. (No deviation).
4. From a spoon range to the ower's residence. (No deviation).

During transport, the spoon must be in a secured container and locked in the trunk of a car, and kept apart from any ammo.

No deviation means while in transit, the firearm owner cannot stop for gas, coffee, the food store...etc. The route must be from point A to point B. They recently added some amendment that allows a person to stop and use the restrooms while transporting a firearm. I am unsure how that process would work, and if there is someone in the vehicle that does not have a gun permit, that person can be brought up on charges while the firearm owner is away from the weapon using the restrooms.

Welcome to New Jersey - the home of the free, and the land of the unarmed.

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30-06 is a good choice. Ammo available all over the world. You can find it at every country store. My choice is .308.
The Remington has lots of after market "stuff", the Winchester and the Browning not so much.
The reason for so much after market items is because Remington worked with the military to develop a sniper rifle, Winchester said "NO".
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James,

Also search for Sook's thread on a sub 500 bolt action rifle. A lot of great info in that thread. He went for the 700.

Edit: found the thread.

Good bolt action rifle for <$500?
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I really like my 700 in 8mm mauser. Want me to bring it over so you can try it out?
Yep. Sometime in December we'll go out to the range...
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Totally a tanget, but:


Wow -- that caught me off guard. This is something you will NEVER hear anyone say in the nanny state of NJ.

NJ gun owners are only allowed the transport of firearms in the following instances:
1. From the spoon store to owner's residence. (No deviation).
2. From the owner's residence to a spoon shop (for repair or sale). (No deviation).
3. From the owner's residence to a spoon range. (No deviation).
4. From a spoon range to the ower's residence. (No deviation).


Welcome to New Jersey - the home of the free, and the land of the unarmed.

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So does the owner get to use it for hunting? It appears that is not a legal option based on 1 through 4.
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So does the owner get to use it for hunting? It appears that is not a legal option based on 1 through 4.
Yes - for rifles, substitute 'hunting area' for 'spoon range.' Hand spoon and rifle rules have some differences, including the ability to hunt.

Last I checked, hunting season is about 1.75 days, and the area where hunting is allowed is about 2.35 acres. (Slight exaggeration on my part...)

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My winchester M 70 in 22-250 is the new one which is a remake of the pre 64 style action. Smokin accurate, great trigger out of the box and almost the perfect gun I think.

My Browning A bolt medallion is a 25-06 and puts holes in holes at 100 yrds.

Both are great guns. I do not like Remingtons. Flame away.
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The Vanguard is made by Howa ... same as the Howa 1500, just a different name on it
That is true...

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