Understanding females.Dating."The Game" Alpha/Beta.What men/husbands do wrong.

[dyount]

As far as rules I don't have any.... I do what I want as I want and if whomever has issue .. I didn't ask them to input on my freedom.
When I first became single I fell for the absolute worst using,heartbreaking, souless (I'll stop there) and 5yrs later I'm still paying off debts from that time period. Point is at the time I really didn't understand the concept of single and what it can be.
Lessons? don't be afraid to take your time, if you and as well she are worth it time is all the better. If someone is in a hurry or is dating only to be married or live with someone I'll bounce in moments.
I should not be taken as cold or self centered by the previous... in fact the complete opposite but will admit to being somewhat guarded. That's a good thing with the lack of truth that seems to fill the single ranks.
The woman I current am totally enjoying is just truly sweet,,,, we are not rushing anything and after a month and a half I love getting texts from her and although she needs her eyes checked she thinks I'm handsome and I have no idea of what she's doing with me of course other than being treated well, always opening doors, and the gentleman my mother made sure I grew up to be.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Baz

But for those who are NOT sure of what they are doing...may I offer 3 basic ground rules:

1. Never get married

2. Never date another person with kids

3. Never let a person move in with you

He tol' me and I didn't listen.

[motion]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

What you have to remember is most females are pretty stupid.

They fall for the biggest most experianced player who knows what lines to spin on them and buys them the biggest bunch of flowers. They are so focused on themselves and what they are being told, that they don't look beyond the moment.

This is why they are anti men or suspicious because they think they are going to meet the man of their dreams in a crowded bar and be carried off by this knight in shinning armour then are disappointed with themselves in the morning for being such an easy lay.

Pure Gold!!! The anti-pelican anti-intellectual post of the thread!

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

What you have to remember is most females are pretty stupid.

They fall for the biggest most experianced player who knows what lines to spin on them and buys them the biggest bunch of flowers. They are so focused on themselves and what they are being told, that they don't look beyond the moment.

This is why they are anti men or suspicious because they think they are going to meet the man of their dreams in a crowded bar and be carried off by this knight in shinning armour then are disappointed with themselves in the morning for being such an easy lay.

Well, I think our work is done here..........

[Bill Douglas]

Ha, that's pretty funny. Ask your dearly beloved how many (including the ones that don't count) and times it by three.

She will have come across a lot of sweeter talkers than you boys.

[M.D. Holloway]

Push, who are you?

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Ha, that's pretty funny. Ask your dearly beloved how many (including the ones that don't count) and times it by three.

She will have come across a lot of sweeter talkers than you boys.

+1. Many are self-centered pigs with a price- they are as horny as most guys and will take what they can take no questions asked, no ethics or honor involved. The truth is what they tell you it is. The trick is not having false illusions.

Being a bit of a domesticated pig yourself keeps 'em honest.

rjp

[john70t]

Randy P, KaleCoAuto.com, Your home for the rare, unusual, and hard to find auto parts. has all those unobtainable products.

However, they don't sell drive and mojo and fortitude.
Those still need to be replenished on a daily basis after the courtship phase dissipates into reality, and one discovers Genghis Khan sleeps on the other side of the bed.

[john70t]

I've heard women 'count gifts' numerically, not by total valuation.
As in: Making coffee every morning and vacuuming the house weekly is psychologically more important than buying her a new car.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

What you have to remember is most females are pretty stupid.

They fall for the biggest most experianced player who knows what lines to spin on them and buys them the biggest bunch of flowers. They are so focused on themselves and what they are being told, that they don't look beyond the moment.

This is why they are anti men or suspicious because they think they are going to meet the man of their dreams in a crowded bar and be carried off by this knight in shinning armour then are disappointed with themselves in the morning for being such an easy lay.

Bill, really?

.... But it have seen some fine women fall for players... My cousin who would have to be one of the worst players I've ever seen bagged a beautiful wife 12 years his junior. She got lots of flowers. After 8 years of marriage they've just had their third child. Ok so he's working hard with his own business but has overextended himself to the point that he had to ask his elderly father for $50,000 just to keep his head above water.
BIG Mortgage, leased BMW etc etc.

Meanwhile the bills are pilling up and the beautiful wife is looking bewildered.
He's on borrowed time at best and he's 42 with 3kids under 8 so if it all goes bad it will really go bad....

The things we do for that little triangle...

[creaturecat]

I spend the money on the Hermes.
For my wife.

[Rusty914s]

Men and women aren't that different. For every stupid man there is a stupid woman. For every shallow woman, there is a shallow man. Etc.

Now, for every smart man, there's a smart woman...the problem for both sexes is getting through all of the stupidity and finding that mate that fits.

YMMV.

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by john70t

I've heard women 'count gifts' numerically, not by total valuation.
As in: Making coffee every morning and vacuuming the house weekly is psychologically more important than buying her a new car.

I think that's true. Women watch a man actions.

[Gretch]

not a complete solution, however:

1) Find a woman who LOVES being a woman. See what she likes about herself. how she sees herself, what she wants to be and if that image suits what you are looking for, you might be on to the right target.

2) Watch how she treats her family. Is she generous, loyal, loving, forgiving? Does the whole family love her? do they laugh and have a great time with each other whenever they are together? That tells you a lot about her character and the conditions of her upbringing. Such familial behavior is a learned condition and it does not go away as long as it continues to be nurtured.

Any other advice is secondary and even superficial. And while you are doing this research....... OBEY BAZ's rules!!!!!!!!!!

[mattdavis11]

Originally Posted by john70t

I've heard women 'count gifts' numerically, not by total valuation.
As in: Making coffee every morning and vacuuming the house weekly is psychologically more important than buying her a new car.

Damn. I vacuum the house weekly, bought her a new car last Thursday, but don't make the coffee every morning. I'm up a creek.

[cockerpunk]

a true alfa doesn't give a ****.

you read online a lot about alfa and beta, and for the most part, its pretty ok. as in, be confident etc etc, and that works well. the problem is when you take the alfa thing too far, and its starts being a beta thing of its own. the true definition of a beta is changing ones self in order to try and attract women, and even if an alfa is conning his way into bed with women with slick lines and negging and such, thats still changing himself to sleep with women. that is beta.

a true alfa doesn't give a ****. no ****s. this one doesn't want to sleep with you tonight ... who cares? this one doesn't like you because you cracked such and such joke ... who cares?

the irony being, that as soon as you stop caring about these things, women come out of the woodwork for you.

[fintstone]

A real man is a winner...he is competitive and accustomed to winning. He picks out the woman he wants and wins her and keeps her...

It doesn't matter is every man she meets wants her (either before of after he lands her)...she will not stray. He has what she needs.

He is smart enough to know what she wants and makes sure it happens...whether it is making her a construction paper heart for Valentines Day or buying her the Hope Diamond.

Any of you wieners who can't make your woman's dreams come true...you are not trying hard enough...and simply don't deserve her.

[kach22i]

The mysterious lack of P-whipped men posting is simply amazing and against all demographics and odds.

You are all studs.

From what I've seen in life it's 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 as far as relationships go.

1/3 male dominated

1/3 female dominated

1/3 balanced/shared equal time dominant/submissive

In general if a relationship is too one sided, I see infidelity. The dominant one cheats because they can (power thing), the submissive one cheats in rebellion to being dominated.

Often these things happen despite either side lacking a clue as to how to share and jointly manage the relationship. Too much me/me/me, not enough us/us/us.

[RANDY P]

what's an alfa?

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by john70t

Randy P, KaleCoAuto.com, Your home for the rare, unusual, and hard to find auto parts. has all those unobtainable products.

However, they don't sell drive and mojo and fortitude.
Those still need to be replenished on a daily basis after the courtship phase dissipates into reality, and one discovers Genghis Khan sleeps on the other side of the bed.

Bah, they're out of stock. Still haven't heard from Pelican- they can't seem to get 'em either.

rjp