A Real War on Cars

[Jerome74911S]

Originally Posted by rob930

With the way they are pushing the green agenda our old cars will be eventually outlawed and crushed for being gross polluters. . .

My 40.5 year-old 911 has around 100,000 miles on it. That's less than 2500 miles per year.

If a new car is driven an average of 15,000 miles per year, then it has to be 600% cleaner than my Porsche before my Porsche is 'dirty'.

I say it's a draw, at least.

[porwolf]

What about cars? They are necessary sometimes. At night in the city, hauling stuff, weekend trip, family trips, etc.. But they should only be an alternative mode of transportation. Regular transportation, like going to and from work, light shopping, even certain weekend should be handled by an clean, safe, and speedy rail/bus system. That is the way it works in many European places. Why are we primarily stuck with slow and, most of the time, inefficient car transportation in the US?

[DanielDudley]

Yesterday is history, tomorrow's a mystery.

Today is a gift. Live in the present.

[CountD]

"Because many people, especially North Americans, can't conceive of a world without cars for everyone, we overlook major problems caused by our private automobile obsession."

This quote is so narrow-minded, egotistical, out-of-touch BS spoken from a mouth of some untraveled person who clearly has NEVER been to Japan, China, or India. All three of these countries have a ridiculously high population that worships automobiles, would give anything to own one, and have the fever much more than us. I can tell you this because I have been there, traveled there, and have seen these places, and all of which have it in their blood and aspire to motor.

Get a grip. Please go and tell the Chinese to give up the dream, tell the Indians to sell off their auto-rickshaws, and tell the Japanese to stop honing the car to a point of utter utilitarianism.

Nice opinion but we are no way to blame for this. Dare this guy to walk down a street in New Delhi at mid-day, tell a Japanese engineer to scratch, and a middle class Chinese to forget it. He can't conceive it, because the truth is that everyone wants one. Good luck.

[Concestor0]

Car's for regular commuting can easily be made to be clean and efficient, batteries can be more environmentally friendly and we certainly don't have to make electricity from coal. The main problem is that our population, especially population density, is way too high for individual transportation. Now how to reduce the population? I know - some sort of system to create massive pollution.

[Jerome74911S]

^^^ This is the perspective that makes sense to me.

[RDM]

If the solution to every problem, from higher temperatures to lower temperatures to obese children to people living in the suburbs is more government control over the individual, maybe the issue isn't temperatures or children or land use.

Maybe (just maybe!) these people have issues with the freedom of individuals to make choices of their own.

[GT3DE]

"...according to the latest Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report."

BINGO. Total nonsense.

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[crustychief]

I lost interest at " cars kill people" "climate change"..Blah blah...

It would take me all day to get to work by horseback. It would take 3 hours by public transportation, I looked into it as a worst case scenario.

[john70t]

He made a good point:
"Even with today's improved fuel standards, only about 15 per cent of the energy from each litre of fuel burned is used to move the vehicle, which typically weighs 10 to 20 times more than the passenger(s) it carries. That translates to about a one per cent efficiency to move those passengers."

Cars are getting heavier and less efficient, due to standards imposed by the private insurance market.
They are legally able to set rates(hidden from the public) based on zip codes and credit scores, not potential cost of damage to others or infrastructure.
Meanwhile, the government mandates this private policy purchase in order to travel on public roadways.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Really guys? This is some tool with no credentials writing on his own blog site, citing other blog sites as sources in the article. This wouldn't pass muster in a high school English class. No facts, no citations, statement of a problem with no valid solutions noted. F-

Thanks to the Internet, every idiot has a voice. Ignore them and don't give them the page visit.

[Rinty]

Originally Posted by KNS

The author obviously lives in an urban area.

According to media reports he lives in an 8 million dollar "sprawling mansion" in Kitsilano (Vancouver).

Interesting to see where he gets his funding from....mystro

There are a number of big U.S. foundations that provide major financial support:

$13 Million Paid to the David Suzuki's Foundation from U.S. Sources - Rethink Campaigns

Suzuki is Canada's Al Gore.

[VaSteve]

PARF anyone?

Can't handle a little discussion? The Disney forum might be for you.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by GT3DE

"...according to the latest Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report."

BINGO. Total nonsense.

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LOL, just LOL.

[vmax]

I'm pretty sure "people " are the cause of most of the Earth's "problems".

Too many of them...

That's the real future war

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by vmax

I'm pretty sure "people " are the cause of most of the Earth's "problems".

Too many of them...

That's the real future war

No, people are good. Look how we get along...


Seriously, we could be a lot smarter, but I defer to the washing machine theory.

''Just don't take my FOKKEN WASHER !!!"

Applies to old cars too.

[cstreit]

We need both a revolution in batteries and in energy production in order to make this viable, but I'm sure it will happen in our lifetimes. I'm saying right now that I'm open to any pro team that wants me to test their all electric racecar in 10 years.

[pksystems]

David Suzuki is Canada's Al Gore.

Pay no attention to the hypocrite.

[72doug2,2S]

David Suzuki is an idiot.

Besides combatting pollution and climate change, reduced dependency on private automobiles will lead to healthier people, fewer deaths and injuries and livable cities with happier citizens. And that's worth fighting for!

Most idiots imagine a utopia that can be obtained if we just stop the "fill in the scapegoat name." This world will never be a utopia. Go find a place you like and leave other people to their own freedoms and choices.

The world needs fewer David Suzukis, perhaps that is really worth fighting for.

[kodioneill]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

Can't handle a little discussion? The Disney forum might be for you.

Ha ha boy are you funny. You must be the jerk stores best seller.