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Neilk 05-15-2014 06:39 AM

TEAM.... hate it when my boss addresses us as that
 
Do you like it or hate it when your boss addresses your group as TEAM?

We have a new interim director who took over for the previous boss that left the company. He tends to micro-manage as he learns the ins and outs of what we do since he came from a different department. What really gets on my nerves is that he read in some business book to address us collectively as TEAM...

It sounds great on paper, but it really grates me when some middling middle manager thinks that using the terminology of great executives/leaders will make him one too. Now I guess on the flip side, how should he address us, well not sure, but TEAM sounds terrible coming from him.

rant over.

asphaltgambler 05-15-2014 06:44 AM

Uh,............................Peter?,............ ..................Uh............... yeah we'll need you and the team to come in Saturday to catch up on that project.....

KFC911 05-15-2014 06:46 AM

You'd better get on board Neil...there is NO "I" in "Team"







































Until Apple announces the iTeam :D

asphaltgambler 05-15-2014 06:50 AM

But there is "me"

kang 05-15-2014 06:51 AM

What I really hate is when they call people "resources."

Eric 951 05-15-2014 07:41 AM

Show up at the next meeting in a jersey and address him as "coach"

911SauCy 05-15-2014 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric 951 (Post 8065955)
Show up at the next meeting in a jersey and address him as "coach"

Ahh yes.

Even better when the mindless manager starts paralleling tasks to football team plays and achievements:rolleyes:

aschen 05-15-2014 08:16 AM

If you manage a group of people what is a good thing to call them?

I have always struggled with this

Evans, Marv 05-15-2014 08:40 AM

I always had a fairly informal style, &always mixed it up by addressing the group sometimes as "ladies & gentlemen," "everyone," let's all," and so on. The only time I would address them as "team" was when complementing them, as "the way you all work(ed) together makes a great team," or comments about a great team effort.

911SauCy 05-15-2014 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschen (Post 8066027)
If you manage a group of people what is a good thing to call them?

I have always struggled with this

I had an old manager that used to say "guys"

That worked until one of the 3 women on the team decided to complain to HR... He got written up.

Tilikum Turbo 05-15-2014 08:47 AM

Team or group, it's the same entity.

While he comes up to speed, yes, it may seem he is 'micro-managing' at first, in order to get the ins and outs of whats really going on.

Professor once told the class:"people don't bother you...you LET them bother you".

If it turns out in the long-run he's a bad boss, that will be self-evident to everyone.

If that turns out to be the case, it's just best to step aside and watch others self-destruct.

vash 05-15-2014 08:57 AM

There is an "I " in team...


Sent via Jedi mind trick.

Icemaster 05-15-2014 02:40 PM

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Oh Haha 05-15-2014 02:44 PM

Our new corporate initiative is to refer to employees as "team members". Blech.:rolleyes:


I dislike the term "associates" as well. Unless you are the company owner you are an employee.

aschen 05-15-2014 03:05 PM

Lols thats funny Ice


The rest of you guys are too sensitive. Team, flock, pack, group, whatever.....whocares.

carambola 05-15-2014 03:23 PM

what is he attempting to accomplish

herr_oberst 05-15-2014 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carambola (Post 8066875)
what is he attempting to accomplish

He'd probably like a bigger paycheck and another rung or two on the corporate ladder.

:)

pegasus9 05-15-2014 04:22 PM

I use hey everyone or hi all, especially in mass emails.

I once worked for a producer that used to start a project with an email that said "go team, go!". It was very lame

In the 90s
Tex winter said to the bulls "There is no 'i' in team."
To which Jordan replied, "there is in Win!"

tedg04 05-15-2014 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschen (Post 8066027)
If you manage a group of people what is a good thing to call them?

I have always struggled with this

Typically muchachos or brohemians works best.

rwest 05-15-2014 05:54 PM

Team is way better than "family."

Scott Douglas 05-15-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kang (Post 8065870)
What I really hate is when they call people "resources."

Worse yet is being called a 'surplus' resource.

Rick Lee 05-15-2014 06:05 PM

My boss is always the last one to arrive and he greets us all with a "Good morning, troops." Our dept. is divided into several teams and they very much are real teams. I've never worked with a tighter-knit bunch. I hate everyone, but I really love my team.

aap1966 05-15-2014 07:18 PM

As my brother says:
"There's no 'I' in TEAM, but there's five 'I's in 'individual brilliance' , so get the hell out of my way and let me do my job."

VaSteve 05-15-2014 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 8065840)
Do you like it or hate it when your boss addresses your group as TEAM?

We have a new interim director who took over for the previous boss that left the company. He tends to micro-manage as he learns the ins and outs of what we do since he came from a different department. What really gets on my nerves is that he read in some business book to address us collectively as TEAM...

It sounds great on paper, but it really grates me when some middling middle manager thinks that using the terminology of great executives/leaders will make him one too. Now I guess on the flip side, how should he address us, well not sure, but TEAM sounds terrible coming from him.

rant over.


You don't like this guy so no matter what he calls you, you won't like it.

I have a "staff" I would not refer to them as such to their faces. I hate being referred to a supervisor, or boss. I prefer manager. In emails, I use "everyone...". It's a pain in the ass frankly....

But again, you don't like or respect the guy so you let it bother you.

My boss (see I used it) spots me in the hallway and will call me by my last name or some jokey thing on my first name "Steve-o", etc. He's kinda quirky awkward, but I like him as a person so I don't let it bother me.

look 171 05-15-2014 07:28 PM

When my workmen aren't there, I address them as workmen to the owners or clients. When they are around, I address them as the Guys.

Would workmen work better for you?

A930Rocket 05-15-2014 08:37 PM

My manager calls us "fellas" and team. Drive us nuts.

gacook 05-15-2014 08:50 PM

I call my group of employees a team. It's a group of people working toward a common goal(s). If they all pull their weight, we succeed. If one or two don't, we have a very real chance of failure. How is this not a team?

diverdan 05-16-2014 02:45 AM

We are a team at my work place and they are a great group of people. We go out of our way to help each other even after work hours are over. There is definitely team spirit. I agree with guy.

Diverdan

widgeon13 05-16-2014 02:51 AM

There is no "team" in "retirement"!

asphaltgambler 05-16-2014 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric 951 (Post 8065955)
Show up at the next meeting in a jersey and address him as "coach"

ON now THATS really funny!!

wdfifteen 05-16-2014 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gacook (Post 8067423)
I call my group of employees a team. It's a group of people working toward a common goal(s). If they all pull their weight, we succeed.
If one or two don't, we have a very real chance of failure. How is this not a team?

The problem comes when bad managers don't recognize that one or two aren't pulling their weight and still call the group a "team." In that circumstance the rest of the group is justified in feeling cynical about the term.

GH85Carrera 05-16-2014 04:26 AM

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cashflyer 05-16-2014 04:44 AM

I stopped calling our field maintenance group "team" and started calling them a "semi-autonomous collective of aviation engineers with results driven initiatives for the purpose of effective customer goal realization".

I was told to just go back to calling them "team".

You can't please some people.

GH85Carrera 05-16-2014 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8067643)
I stopped calling our field maintenance group "team" and started calling them a "semi-autonomous collective of aviation engineers with results driven initiatives for the purpose of effective customer goal realization".

I was told to just go back to calling them "team".

You can't please some people.

You could use the acronym SCCOAEWRDIFTPOECGR and claim it is Klingon!

Brando 05-16-2014 05:23 AM

I was taught to praise the group as "team", but otherwise refer to them as "everyone", "all", or "ladies and gentlemen". Although if you don't like a person or their management style it doesn't matter how they address you or your coworkers, you're just not going to like it until you're over it.

widgeon13 05-16-2014 05:29 AM

I worked for the same company for 30 years, started as trainee and retired as VP sales. Worked for seven different presidents and who knows how many different consultants. None of it worked. You can inject all the vocabulary you want but if you don't have it, you aren't going to succeed.

Smart people don't like having smoke blown up their ass!

DaveE 05-16-2014 05:54 AM

I hate being "out of pocket" worse, it implying that at some point I'm in someone's pocket.

DanielDudley 05-16-2014 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8067662)
You could use the acronym SCCOAEWRDIFTPOECGR and claim it is Klingon!

Or SaCC O for short. :)

I always hated it when we were referred to as ''You witless bunch of dicks.'' Team sounds much better to me. Of course I once told an assistant engineer that he was the boss, ''and I will do anything you ask me to do, no matter how stupid I think it is.''.

That went over really well, and I didn't have to be called anything for a few weeks...

Of course, I was also the guy who went around after department meetings and told all the group leaders to stop worrying about what they were being asked to do, and just keep concentrating on results, as that is really what everyone wants, even if they don't know how to get it.

Remember, ''Team'' meetings are generally just to show who is the boss. If you are lucky, maybe one or two minutes of a meeting will actually address what you are doing. In my life, I have gotten in far more trouble doing what I was told than I ever got into by doing what really needed to be done. If things are getting done, everybody looks good. Figure out What They Want, Don't concentrate on How They Want You to Do It.

After all the gobbledegook, I usually recap by asking, ''So you want us to do this, this and this.'', stating the goals as I see them. Then they will say, Yes, or, ''No, I want you to do this and this."

After clarifying, that is what I will do, assuming that is really what needs to be done...

june82000 05-16-2014 06:04 AM

I hate all corporate cliches. Here are a few that really make my skin crawl.

"Think Outside the Box" (Taco Bell even went so far as "Think Outside the Bun")
"Low-hanging fruit"
"Mission-critical"
"Bring to the table"
"Value-added"
"It's a win-win"
"Drink the Kool-Aid"
"Run it up the flagpole"
"Bring our 'A' game"

And the one I hate the most -

"Let's throw everything against the wall to see what sticks"

Oh, by the way - don't forget - today is "Hawaiian Shirt Day"

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joe payne 05-16-2014 07:10 AM

Teim, Now there's an I in it!


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