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			They are a LONG way from prime time, at least for manned civil and commercial applications.  Weight is enemy #1 with aircraft, until batteries are developed with higher energy density they are simply too heavy to be viable.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Solar panel electric drones flying overhead 24/7 using batteries at night cannot be far off. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Corkscrew up during the day, corkscrew down flight path at night. 
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 Speed and payload, as OWP mentioned, are limiting factors for commercial travel at reasonable gross weights. In the small UAS I use in commercial work, they are all electric for any number of reasons, vibration mostly. We get amazing endurance from small battery footprints but our payloads are under 5lbs. I am working with the Silent Falcon guys. They have one of the best emerging small UAS there is: Silent-Falcon sUAS  
		
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			Its one thing for the military to have these and totally different for the civilian market. Reliability is the key and its kinda hard to get sun on the panels in large parts of the world...
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Takes us back to Tesla, how did he do it ? 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			Rhetorical I know ...Seems if he could at the turn of the century...what is stopping us now? He drove a electric car around (documented) in Niagra falls. With No battery! 
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			a friend has just bought one of these, being shipped as I type, think it is only one of two  in the US 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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 At this point, it would not be able to have a payload beyond electronic surveillance. 
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			Graphene is going to be big in the future, I'll predict. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
				
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