NYC lowers the speed limit to 25 MPH

[pavulon]

Is the intent to decrease car vs pedestrian carnage?

[campbellcj]

Recently I read that the socialists in France were doing the same thing with speed limits in Paris. As far as I'm concerned this is just another reason to avoid both cities...

[Mike80911]

Originally Posted by pavulon

Is the intent to decrease car vs pedestrian carnage?

According to DeBlasio yes but as I said it is becoming increasingly difficult to leave your house without getting a ticket for some stupid reason. I have never seen so many people pulled over before. I work about 12 miles form home and on my way to work now I see at least 4 to 5 cars pulled over getting tickets everyday. So I would feel in reality this is just another way to summons otherwise law abiding people. If he is truly concerned with pedestrian safety they would stop all of the jaywalking and crossing against the lights.

[porwolf]

NYC lowers the speed limit to 25 MPH

What is the big deal? Can anybody really cover 25 miles on New York City streets in one hour? I guess it rubs people the wrong way who don't understand basic math and think they can make up lost time at traffic stalls with extra speed. The total time traveled from point to point in New York City does not change much at all, whether the speed limit is 25MPH or 125MPH. It's just a lot safer at 25MPH.

[fred cook]

I have been to NYC several times in my lifetime and pretty much enjoyed each visit. Lots to see and to do! However, I would never consider living there! Way too many people and waaaaay to much political crap going on! So, all you New Yorkers that are competing for tiny apartments that cost exorbitant rents, it's all yours! On the other hand, if you ever decide that you are ready for a pace of life at a slower rate, let me know and I will help you find a nice place here in the south! By the way, what are you New Yorkers going to do when the global warming causes the ocean levels to rise? Who knows, Rockefeller Plaza might become a popular scuba diving spot!

[Mike80911]

Originally Posted by porwolf

NYC lowers the speed limit to 25 MPH

What is the big deal? Can anybody really cover 25 miles on New York City streets in one hour? I guess it rubs people the wrong way who don't understand basic math and think they can make up lost time at traffic stalls with extra speed. The total time traveled from point to point in New York City does not change much at all, whether the speed limit is 25MPH or 125MPH. It's just a lot safer at 25MPH.

Why does everyone keep saying that you cannot drive the streets of NYC at 25 mph. You have obviously never been to NY it is made up of a lot more than just Manhattan which by the way is the smallest borough of the city. There are many roads around NY that can be driven at more than 30 MPH safely. As I said this is just another way to give out summonses as a tax to the working people. Sorry if my math skills do not measure up to yours but if you and I leave the same spot at the same time and I am doing 30 MPH and you are doing 25 MPH by my math I will cover 30 miles in one hour and you will cover 25 or am I wrong?

[enzo1]

Albany Will Finally Let Us Lower Our Speed Limit To 25 MPH: Gothamist.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by enzo1

Albany Will Finally Let Us Lower Our Speed Limit To 25 MPH: Gothamist.

This just means kids with guns will have slower moving targets. Finally, someone has thought of the children.

[TimT]

The OP is sort of correct about this bill, initially what is does is make the speed limit on any street in NYC that does not have signage or posted speed limits, have a 25 MPH maximum limit.... Any streets that have posted limits, now the city has a method that does not require state approval to make changes...

While I am not a fan of this bill at all, its primary purpose was to allow NYC to manage traffic laws at a local level.. i.e. not have to go to Albany and grease palms etc.. There are localized areas with very powerful groups representing walkers/bicyclists...The recently replaced NYCDOT Commissioner rode her bike to work..

Changes of speed limits to 25 MPH on Northern Blvd were mentioned.... that was/is part of a a program that NYC had in place since 2012 (don't hold me to a date) called “Arterial Slow Zones” 25 sections of road were identified and starting with a stretch of Atlantic Ave were re signed to be 25 mph zones... Note that to do this... additional signage and other traffic calming methods are required...(speed humps).

Disclosure, my company won some bids having to do with this... We also won a contract for improving traffic flow in lower Manhattan.. (Impossible but you have to try)

In a nutshell when NYC wants to change the speed limit on a posted road, they have to notify the community boards involved (instead of the State), and there is a 60 day comment period... In the end NYCDOT makes the final decision...

Does anyone think that a community board is going to oppose reduction of speed limits??

And there are bunch of RFPs in the pipeline... I've seen the language on an early one...one way street one lane = 25 mph, street greater than 60' wide..as posted if not posted... etc......

The FDR will not be posted at 25 mph... Queens Blvd works very well... not even mentioned in the RFPs I looked at..

[TimT]

Fwiw

Here is the bill:

S7892-2013 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Authorizes the city of New York to establish reduced speed limits throughout the city and on certain designated highways - New York State Senate

Note that is applies to cities with populations over one million...

Not sure how if any other cities in NY exceed that... and am to lazy to look

[304065]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

How many people actually even own cars that live in NYC? All of my friends that live/have lived there used public transit because owning a car was cost prohibitive and rather pointless.

Many more than you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4JEcivazOE

[Mike80911]

If anyone has ever driven on a street with a 30 MPH limit with no traffic you would probably find yourself doing 40 MPH without even knowing it. On a street with a 25 MPH limit you would be 15 MPH over which would result in a higher fine.
Yesterday there were 3 police cars positioned within a 4 block radius of my home handing out tickets to almost every car that passed. My next door neighbor pulled out of her driveway and was pulled over in front of my house for not wearing her seatbelt she explained that she knew she was wrong but she just left and was about to put it on she got a ticket anyway.

[Mike80911]

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

This just means kids with guns will have slower moving targets. Finally, someone has thought of the children.

I do not know you and that makes me pretty sure you do not know me. You know nothing about my background or my beliefs. The only thing we seem to have in common is our passion for a particular car. So why is it that every thread I start you seem to feel the need to post a sarcastic reply? I am sorry if in some way I offend you this was never my intention but it just seems to be the result. So please accept my apologies for all of the things I have done to annoy you. In the future I will try to be more understanding of your feelings

[ramonesfreak]

I had a car and a motorcycle when I lived there. It was both a luxury and a nightmare to deal with

How many people actually even own cars that live in NYC? All of my friends that live/have lived there used public transit because owning a car was cost prohibitive and rather pointless.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

How many people actually even own cars that live in NYC? All of my friends that live/have lived there used public transit because owning a car was cost prohibitive and rather pointless.

I had a car when living on the upper west side and then down in the fur district, the latter was a lot easier. Plenty of days when it was a real pain in the ass, but worth it IMO. Good parking karma is important.

[ramonesfreak]

I used my car for work and when I got home every night (soho) it would usually take me at least 1 full hour of circling my apartment until a space became available. I did this for years until I almost went insane. Now when I am in my old neighborhood, I see that many of my best spots, mostly on prince street by Thompson are "no parking".

[Mike80911]

Manhattan is basically one big no parking zone especially now with all of the bike lanes and Citibike stands everywhere. It surprises me though that I do see many older Porsches parked along the streets just about everyday. The other day I saw a 964 Turbo parked on Madison Ave. with a ticket on the windshield. I can't believe that someone would leave that car parked on a city street with values the way they are today.

[NY65912]

OK, I have driven this city everyday for the past 42 years. I think there are way too many people that speed. The speed limit is merely a suggestion. Everyone speeds, well almost, there are the slow pokes amongst us. There are 25 mph signs all over Brooklyn. Eastern Parkway has a "slow zone", the average speed in the early AM is 40 -60 mph, there is a "your speed is" sign up for laughs. The fact that speed cameras are approved to be installed has people pissed off. I don't think its a bad idea. The speed limits have to be enforced for the public safety. Did I speed, yes. Do I speed, now, yes, but I am a lot slower now as I am older. There is a perception a driver has as to how fast he can drive on any given street.

The streets here are very dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists. Everyone is in a hurry to get in front of the next guy, only to get to a red light and wait. A 25 mph limit is going to be ignored just like all the other speed limit signs around here. People really don't care how fast they are going, only how long it will take to get where they are going.

I don't enjoy driving my 911 fast on the street. There are way too many dangers besides the ticket. Driving on the track taught me not to drive fast on the street. The boy racers and entitled drivers will never learn. So, I think the 25 mph issue is deeper than just a change in the law. BTW, I have no love at all for DeBlasio.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Mike80911

I do not know you and that makes me pretty sure you do not know me. You know nothing about my background or my beliefs. The only thing we seem to have in common is our passion for a particular car. So why is it that every thread I start you seem to feel the need to post a sarcastic reply? I am sorry if in some way I offend you this was never my intention but it just seems to be the result. So please accept my apologies for all of the things I have done to annoy you. In the future I will try to be more understanding of your feelings

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