F1 Spa weekend GP

[URY914]

That was a racing incident. Fault lies with no one. Race on.

[Don Plumley]

Wow - some serious racing going on! Alonso was amazing, shame on the last lap. Feel bad for Hammy - just can't catch a break. He does better starting in the back of the field it seems. But how stupid is it to think about saving an engine?

[livi]

Really exciting race! So much brilliant driving.

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by URY914

That was a racing incident. Fault lies with no one. Race on.

Or not.

Lewis Hamilton claims Nico Rosberg confessed to deliberately crashing into him at Spa | Mercedes GP Petronas F1 News | Formula 1 Teams | Sky Sports

[Don Plumley]

Woah - the post-race interviews with Nico and Hammy were cold. Would like to be a fly in the wall in the team debriefing.

[Iciclehead]

Looks like Rosberg admitted to not avoiding the incident, apparently as a means of getting even for last race.

Says much about Rosberg's lack of character in a cesspool of low character individuals.....I guess my gut feel about the guy is looking justified.

Go Hambone!

Dennis

[cairns]

Tito Wolff and Niki Lauda aren't going to be calling this a racing incident and then just be moving on I assure you. Rosberg cost the team dearly today and he sure didn't do himself any favors.

[nostatic]

I don't understand how the TV commentators kept saying it was a "racing incident" and no one was at fault. It was Hamilton's corner and he was in the lead. He kept his line - as he should.

Seething Toto Wolff hits out after Nico Rosberg punctures Lewis Hamilton at Spa | Mercedes GP Petronas F1 News | Formula 1 Teams | Sky Sports

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At the end of this season and all next year nico will be referred to as world champion...... And it won't matter how he got there.....

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by nostatic

I don't understand how the TV commentators kept saying it was a "racing incident" and no one was at fault. It was Hamilton's corner and he was in the lead. He kept his line - as he should.

They should have said both were at fault. I agree it was Hamilton's corner, but Nico did get a 1/2 car length in there. As teammates, Hamilton could have given him some "racing room", but made the decision not to. Nico made the decision not to back out. My initial opinion was "racing incident". Both 50/50 at fault...But now that Nico is admitting "was proving a point"...Well, that's just F#@#ing stupid.

While these two are on-track bickering...Smiling Ricciardo is slipping in the back door and racking up points! Go Ricciardo!

[nota]

it will not cost M-B a thing
they are a lock on WCC
as are their drivers for a 1-2 in the WCD
but
i SAW HAM RUN THE TYRE IN TO the FRONT WING
sure nic did not back off or dodge
but his car was there going strait dead ahead
when ham swerved over in to not enough space
on the street [it is not] 100% ham fault
other then the DON'T HIT THE TEAM-MATE rule
what did nic do wrong ?

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Nico did nothing wrong, this is what happens when you have 2 aggressive drivers trying to accomplish something. ...... pure racing incident...

[nostatic]

Then Wolf and Lauda were just posturing for the press after the race to make Hamilton feel good?

I don't think so. Hamilton didn't shut the door on Nico - he just held his line which was about all he could do since they both were braking deep. Taking your teammate out from behind on lap 2 is nonsense.

[chapo]

Racing accident, pretty tame compared to earlier championships like Prost and Senna. Hamilton is starting to sound like Danica on the radio.

[strupgolf]

"He slowed down; his car got in the way; his car is faster; he does'nt like me; he pushed me aside; , words spoken by Danika, ah, Hammy. Just race and be happy you do.

[L8Brakr]

A racing incident......although avoidable by both drivers.

Did Ham move to the right and off the normal racing line into a blocking position prior to braking for the entrance to the chicane...........yes
Was Nico's move to pass on the outside an unnecessary and high-risk maneuver.......yes

Neither action was appropriate for the second lap of the race.

Once through the first apex of the chicane, did Ham take a direct line to the second apex leaving no room to the left for Rosberg.......yes (I think Ham wanted to push Rosberg to the inside over the curbs, just like Vettel on the previous lap)

Could Rosberg have gotten harder on the brakes and moved left giving the second apex to Ham without contact........yes (although after the last race, Rosberg learned that Ham will not move off his line to benefit Rosberg, so perhaps Rosberg has decided not to move off line to benefit Ham).

In a perfect world both cars would have suffered similar damages and the costs to each would have been comparable. Reality says this time Ham got the short straw......next time it may be Rosberg who suffers.

As a fan, it made for an interesting race. If I ran the team and that BS happened again prior to the final five laps, both drivers would be missing a substantial portion of their paycheck.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by nota

it will not cost M-B a thing
they are a lock on WCC
as are their drivers for a 1-2 in the WCD
but
i SAW HAM RUN THE TYRE IN TO the FRONT WING
sure nic did not back off or dodge
but his car was there going strait dead ahead
when ham swerved over in to not enough space
on the street [it is not] 100% ham fault
other then the DON'T HIT THE TEAM-MATE rule
what did nic do wrong ?

The fastes car hasn't always won the championship. A few to many wrecks, and someone else steals it from the wings.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by L8Brakr

A racing incident......although avoidable by both drivers.

Did Ham move to the right and off the normal racing line into a blocking position prior to braking for the entrance to the chicane...........yes
Was Nico's move to pass on the outside an unnecessary and high-risk maneuver.......yes

Neither action was appropriate for the second lap of the race.

Once through the first apex of the chicane, did Ham take a direct line to the second apex leaving no room to the left for Rosberg.......yes (I think Ham wanted to push Rosberg to the inside over the curbs, just like Vettel on the previous lap)

Could Rosberg have gotten harder on the brakes and moved left giving the second apex to Ham without contact........yes (although after the last race, Rosberg learned that Ham will not move off his line to benefit Rosberg, so perhaps Rosberg has decided not to move off line to benefit Ham).

In a perfect world both cars would have suffered similar damages and the costs to each would have been comparable. Reality says this time Ham got the short straw......next time it may be Rosberg who suffers.

As a fan, it made for an interesting race. If I ran the team and that BS happened again prior to the final five laps, both drivers would be missing a substantial portion of their paycheck.

Very well said.

[DaveE]

Hamilton's signature move is pushing people off the track so it was no surprise he wouldn't give racing room to Rosberg.

[kang]

It is the responsibility of the overtaking driver to make the pass cleanly, doubly so when it is your teammate. Nico did not fulfill his responsibility. Nico wasn't even remotely close enough to claim the line. The line belonged to Lewis. Lewis had no responsibility to leave room for Nico, given how far behind Nico was.

Nico admitted to not backing out. Think about driving on the street. Someone cuts you off. You could avoid the accident by braking or swerving, but you don't. Whose fault is the accident? Would it be considered deliberate?