Major dust storm yesterday in AZ...11' Umbrella in 9' pool. :(

[Don Ro]

The pedestal alone weighs 200 lb.
This will be fun.
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[GWN7]

Can you disconnect the arm and the umbrella part? Then slide the base to the shallow end and lift out from there.

[Don Ro]

I'll wear my goggles and disassemble it as much as I can...lift out what I can.
Open the top on the pedestal and rent a pump to suck out its sand...then take out the pedestal bucket.
It's a new pool and I don't want to scratch the fragile Pebble Tek finish...so dragging the 200 lb. pedestal is not an option.
I'll leave it in the deep end...less sand spill...I'd guess.
Too much...I saw the black sky yesterday and went unconscious about cranking the canopy down.
Dope!
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The wind was so strong that it blew over and broke a few heavy planter pots that are 3' tall and 14" at their base.
The patio is a mess...another 13' umbrella that was closed blew over and broke some struts.
Luckily my Teak table was not hurt...just tumbled all over the place...not at all blemished.
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I'll be more vigilant about the weather forecast from now on.
What a pisser, eh?

[GWN7]

Objects in water weigh less than on land. Two people should be able to pick the base up and carry it to the shallow end without scratching the pool. Put it on a rubber tire wheeler in the pool and 4 people should be able to lift it out of the water.

[tevake]

You just need a longer arm on that deep end umbrella, permanant shady spot right where you want it.

[RANDY P]

we had one in LV and the neighbor's shed - which was a 10 x 10" wound up wedged between the house and concrete wall divider...

LOL. Gotta love it.

[BE911SC]

I replace our umbrella at least once a year because I fail to close it before a wind storm. Saw it go past the upstairs window once and thought, duh, better go get another one.

[group911@aol.co]

Tie an uninflated innertube to it and inflate the tube.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

Tie an uninflated innertube to it and inflate the tube.

+1

Not sure how much you want to spend or how close a crane can get to your pool but a million years ago I used to set HAVC equipment with crane (rented by the hour with an operator)...

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

+1

Not sure how much you want to spend or how close a crane can get to your pool but a million years ago I used to set HAVC equipment with crane (rented by the hour with an operator)...

What if he wants to rent just the crane--without the operator?

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by GWN7

Objects in water weigh less than on land.

The science may say that's true, but I fished out a metal lawn chair from the deep end of a pool last month and it certainly felt twice as heavy in the water (while I was trying to swim it up to the surface) than it did on dry land. I like your idea about dropping in a dolly (or creeper?) into the pool and carefully rolling the base into the shallow end where it'll be easier to manhandle. Wheels like they use on rollerblades should be pretty gentle on the pool floor.

[id10t]

Having done a course on recovering items for my advanced scuba class, a big +1 to inflating a innertube or similar to lift it. lift bags rock, and at such shallows it shouldn't get away from you....

[GWN7]

Originally Posted by Noah930

The science may say that's true, but I fished out a metal lawn chair from the deep end of a pool last month and it certainly felt twice as heavy in the water (while I was trying to swim it up to the surface) than it did on dry land. I like your idea about dropping in a dolly (or creeper?) into the pool and carefully rolling the base into the shallow end where it'll be easier to manhandle. Wheels like they use on rollerblades should be pretty gentle on the pool floor.

If I remember the science say the weight of the object is reduced by the weight of the water it displaces. A cubic foot is 7.5 gallons or about 75 lbs. Quick calculations, not exact. Why it feels heavier is because of the surface friction of the water on the object. If you move it slower there is less friction.

Get inner tube underneath and inflate. Float to shallow end and place on fridge dolly. Get 4 people to lift dolly out of water. This way they are only picking up 1/4 the weight (60 lbs or so). Then you can wheel the dolly and base to where you want without trouble.

[356racing]

Same thing happened with our cantilever umbrella a few years back. It is true that 2 people can move it under water, it's the last part where you have to heave it out of the water that gets you! You need a free beer at Don's house pool party to rally the pelican troops.

[slodave]

Originally Posted by Noah930

I like your idea about dropping in a dolly (or creeper?) into the pool and carefully rolling the base into the shallow end where it'll be easier to manhandle. Wheels like they use on rollerblades should be pretty gentle on the pool floor.

You don't want to do that on a Pebble Tech surface.

[island911]

Can't you just wait for the next big wind? Easier to get it down from your neighbors tree. No?

Champaign problems, eh?

[speeder]

Son-of-a-!!

[Eric Coffey]

The only way to get that out is to build an overly complicated Rube Goldberg-esqe pulley and winch mechanism.

I see you are already in the planning/design phase with the ladder, pool brush/vac, random long-ass pole, and upside-down storage container.

Or, a deck-mounted trebuchet should do it. Just tie the business end to the umbrella and let her rip!

Either way, be sure to video it.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

I'm thinking there's a way to work explosives into this somehow.

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I'm thinking there's a way to work explosives into this somehow.

But of course.

Throw in some underwater-welding and I think may have all the bases covered.