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3 issues that compel you to leave an employer are...?

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Old 09-21-2014, 08:13 AM
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Money
Work environment
Work location

Not necessarily in that order.
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work environment
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:24 AM
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I've spent years researching what we refer to as the employee value proposition. Here they are in current order. The order does vary by generation and the needs under each tenet do change periodically:

1. The people I work with (manager and coworkers)
2. The work environment
3. The mission of the company
4. The flexibility of the work
5. The compensation and benefits

This is the order of importance when they are in balance. When one is significantly skewed it may trump those higher on the list.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:28 AM
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1. Management (foreign) that hires 25 yr local experience in a new market and then completely and consistently ignores them.

2. Foreign management that insists that market-savvy local managers recruit people and implement strategies that compromise reputations and have no possible means of success.

3. Foreign management that doesn't even know what it doesn't know.

How bout those three?

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1) (lack of) Work/life balance
2) Arbitrary/dictatorial management
3) Money or lack of promotion
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okay, a little clarification:

when i wrote 'work environment' that includes the people i work with and management, IMO.
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Money
Work environment
Work location

Not necessarily in that order.
Yeah, that's pretty close, but I'm not sure location is as big a deal for me since I generally know what I'm getting into when I start. I've had one job move locations on me, but it wasn't that big a deal since it was only a few miles and to a nicer facility.

My 3 factors in no particular order are
Money
work environment
security/stability.

Security/stability could be rolled into work environment, but I've worked places where the work, people and management were great, but the stability and security was lacking, so I'm putting that separate.

The ranking can vary as the factors vary. Much better security and work environment might make it easier to live with a little less money. Much more money might make it easier to live with reduced quality of work environment or security/stability, etc....
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The number one issue that would compel me to leave is .... finding a better job, no matter how good my current one is.

My current job is so bad that I feel like I'm climbing into bed with the enemy when I arrive at work and feel like I need a shower when I leave work. BUT.... the money isn't that bad and it's the best job I have at the moment.
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team dynamic

is there a glass ceiling? can you advance and grow your career in the company?

compensation

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3 issues that compel you to leave an employer are...?

1. Overall quality of life (work-life balance, how job fits in, commute, how "free" my free time is, etc).
2. Career fulfillment (satisfaction that my contributions within the organization actually matter, do I feel appreciated?)
3. Remuneration (salary plus benefits - whole package - NOT just salary. Benefits count for a lot)

In that order. Those are the reasons I've left former employers and found new ones.
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I'm 72 and still go to work 5 days a week. I feel very privileged to be doing so. That said, if my company did any of the following I would consider retirement:
-engaging in dishonest business practices.
-cheating customers.
-cheating employees.
-and I would add missing paydays or no company car which is make or break benefit.
I've been with them for 28 years and so far so good. I enjoy what I do.
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Effing me out of money
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1) CULTURE
2) Satisfaction
3) Compensation Package

I started my own company for reasons one and two!
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You will know when it's time to leave when you've:

1. given enough;
2. taken enough; and
3. had enough.
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1. Ethical compromise.
2. Micro-management.
3. Management hypocrisy.

Petty I know, (except for No 1), but in the word's of Sgt Murtaugh "I'm getting too old for this 5HT".
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I left my first 3 sales jobs for essentially the same reason. An obvious downward spiral due to market changes/economic conditions that the companies could not cope with. I bailed while I could.

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...if my company did any of the following I would consider retirement:
-engaging in dishonest business practices.
-cheating customers.
-cheating employees.
The above is pretty close to my list although IMO, the first one covers the next two.
My list:
-Dishonesty: with me or my customers.
-Money: changing the system/pay plan that cuts my pay.
-Time: requiring more time at work without proper compensation.

I'm not too concerned about who my co-workers or supervisors are...it will change again soon enough.
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"integrity is never painless"

I had a Director of Operations order me to send material that failed QA to the customer. His position was that this particular customer never checked the incoming material. Instead, I scrapped the parts, wrote up the rejection paperwork, called my wife, met with the CEO, and resigned that day.

I still do projects for this customer (as a consultant not an employee) but NEVER ask me to compromise my integrity!

You asked for three so two more are cheating customers and cheating employees (giving credit here to gamin).

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