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Easy access to the handspoon?
Let me start by emphasizing it is just my wife and I in the house and no children.
Let me also say we live in a nice neighborhood, I have lived there for 20+ years, no break-ins, no robberies, never been approached by a bad guy. However wife moved in three years ago and now I have someone to protect. Wife has joined the neighborhood watch and they are filling her head with all kinds of ideas of bad guys roaming the streets. Logistics: I sleep on the side of the bed about thirty inches from the closet... I keep the 9mm in a nondescript book bag on the top shelf of the closet thinking if SHTF I would roll out of bed, slide open closet, reach in bag and be ready to go. Or another option would be to keep hand spoon in end table next to bed. A more covert idea is to get one of those cool hidden compartment things installed next to the bed... but no way am I spending +$200 on a shelf with a hidden compartment. How do you guys that have a hand spoon for home defense keep it safely stored but within easy reach? I have been eyeballing those small handgun safes with the button combination, anyone using one of them? Thanks in advance.
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Anything you can't do by feel, in the dark? Probably is going to be counterproductive. If you want fast action, complicated thinking tasks in the dark are going to be tough without training and practice. So, I think your current situation is not bad. Is the magazine full, and in the spoon, or is it separate (and full). Empty magazine and the spoon is better as a heavy thing to hit someone with. I know a fellow who has his 5.56 standing by his bedside, full mag, all he needs to do is to chamber the first round and he is ready to go. First five are frangibles, the rest are, um, not.
I would skip any kind of thing that requires thinking or dexterity in the dark, unless I trained regularly to do the thing I needed to do. You know, without getting too specific. |
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In a small simple hard case next to my cpap machine, with a small bright flash light and my cell phone.
1911, chamber empty, hammer back, safety off, 10 round mag in it.
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One thing to think about. My father was a cop before I was born, so years later we still had handguns around the house. When I was about 13, our house was robbed and one of the guns was stolen. That's one of the things that I keep in mind when thinking of how to store a gun in the house, is if someone could break in and then take my gun to use in crimes. I definitely would not be happy about that.
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Sentry Safe Quick Access Safe 0.08 Cubic Feet - Wall Safes - Amazon.com I know the would just steal that and pry it open later... but if they get into the house and to the spoon before I can at least they can't use it on my wife or I. I also have a 870 for home defense... however I think easy access to it would be even more problematic. Police choppers were flying over our neighborhood a week or so ago, I moved the hand spoon to the nightstand... it is still there... I feel better about it being closer at hand however also worried about it being such easy access.
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I'm a bachelor - no kids...no wife - - - yet.
. 'Have this Mossberg Mod. 500 Pump Persuader Maxi-Combo 12 ga. on the floor next to my bed. Loaded and ready, safety on. .... . ![]() . . A 1911-A1 on my headboard: . . ![]() . . This S&W .38 on my coffee table in the living room: . . ![]() . . When I'm out and about, sometimes I'm packing this: . . ![]() . . And a Browning Hi-Power 9 in both cars. . I sleep fairly well most nights.
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(1) Deadbolt and reinforced striker plate on the solid bedroom door. (2) Gun in nightstand drawer.
I have the keypad safe on my nightstand, since I have kids.
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Note to self: Don't piss off Don!
My first house was in a not so nice neighborhood... I found I slept better with a shotspoon next to my bed. Not sure wifey would be so cool with that. However I'm thinking of installing some of those big hooks in the closet like the ones you use to hang your bicycle in the garage. Have always slept with a big a$$ scary knife under my bed too.
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If it isn't within arms reach, it isn't effective. I have one of mine within arms reach at all times, except when I'm at work. They don't allow it.
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My 1911 hangs in my shoulder holster on the clothes hook of my closet. The sliding door is open enough to grab it with ease.
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ziptie an extra inexpensive holster to the backside of the headboard? and one behind the fridge, one under the couch..one taped to the underside of the kitchen sink..etc.
hahah..i also dont have kids and it is just the wife and i..mine is just there..
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Wow, I can't imagine living in an area where I felt the need to keep 6 guns loaded and ready like Don does. I live in a flyover state and 10 miles from the nearest small town, but I do have the Rem 870, my wife's Springfield 45 acp, my glock 40, several 22s, and a nice scoped 223. I have a 150 yd shooting range out back for plinking around, but have never felt that I need to keep a loaded gun within arm's reach at all times......that must suck !
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It doesn't suck. It's a choice one must make. It may not be necessity, but it is a choice. Much better than having to ask yourself why you didn't have one.
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I use a DakSport (need to check spelling) safe on the floor between the bed and nightstand. Floorstanding lamp in front of it so you really have to be looking for it. Sitting on it's end, springloaded door opens up. Pistol is sitting with the barrel over a short dowel rod in a piece of 2x4. Four buttons. Code can be keyed in with either hand depending on how I'm sleeping. Once the door is open it's grab and go. If i have more time I'll grab a long gun. I have a kid in the house so they need to stay locked up. -J
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First, I live in a very safe area, barrier Island with only 2 roads off. About 3 years ago I had an eye opener. The bride was down stairs watching tv while I was up in bed reading a book, heard a blood curdling scream....... HELP, HELP!!!!!!!!!!. No idea what she was screaming about but she is not the type of gal to freak over a spider. Came running down stairs to find a blood covered man standing in front of one of our doors. This hoodlum had to open our back gate and climb a flight of stairs just to open another gate to walk onto the back deck, closest road 300 yards away. Back door was unlocked, as always...... young brother standing there gun in hand, had he been smart enough to open the door he would have been inside our home a just a few feet from my wife. He did not see me coming down the stairs and I was able to slide behind the stairs and get to the office where I had a Kal Tec 32 in a drawer. Was able to come up on him from an angle and informed him that he needed to drop the gun NOW, he complied and then fell to the ground. Turns out he had been shot and stabbed about a mile away in a drug deal, go figure. Cops came, he was arrested, cash in pocket along with crack.... left us to clean up the blood, so much for your public servants helping you out, the only advice was use bleach, it's the only thing that kill HIV!!!!!!
From that day forward, we had a personal protection device close to every door in the home, wife now knows how to handle them with confidence. The moral of the story is, be prepared for anything, even at the home. I carry about 60% of the time, its that 40% that I worry about. Now back to the OP, if you have a gun in a safe with a code and you need it, well,your ****ed and maybe dead. You stated you have no kids so why would you need to put the guns in a safe? Place in in a drawers, cabinet ect. Show your wife where they are and teach her to shoot, make her feel confident with them in her hands...... Unless you are screwing around with a younger women or your secretary, then forget the last few sentences and you are on you own!
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"...have never felt that I need to keep a loaded gun within arm's reach at all times......that must suck !"
~~~~~~~~~ Not a 'need' for me, just a desire. I like firearms and I'm not afraid of them. I've met women who were afraid to go any where near my motorcycles due to fear of them. Other women would come over to my place and weren't the least bit moved by the firearms I have sitting around. My ex fiance is Annie Oakley at the range. I have an SKS stock sitting on one of my kitchen islands and the receiver, etc., sitting in a box right there. A couple of SKSs leaning up against the living room wall - just bought them and haven't checked them out fully. She moved all of the above one day to see how her furniture would look in my place. . Ever fondled an unfired NIB 6" Colt Python .357? It's something to behold ... just to look at what they did to make it what it is. And that action!!! It's a flawless, precision piece of art. . Also, I grew up in No. Dakota and hunted as early as I can remember. Made my own slingshots...shot blackbirds. A BB rifle at such an early age I could hardly cock it. 22 rifles in kitchen corner of the farm house and in the barn. Shot my first buck when I was 9 or 10...got my first lesson on dressing it out on that occasion. My brother shot a deer out through our bedroom window one season with his own .270 when he was 13 yrs. old. . . . OK, I'm done...thought I'd say more...but it's all been said. . . It's either in your blood or not. . Best, . . . PS And no, it doesn't "suck". I got a chuckle out of that one. ![]() . . Correction: 'Think I was a year or two older when I shot my first buck.
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"I live in a flyover state and 10 miles from the nearest small town,..."
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