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Easy access to the handspoon?
Let me start by emphasizing it is just my wife and I in the house and no children.
Let me also say we live in a nice neighborhood, I have lived there for 20+ years, no break-ins, no robberies, never been approached by a bad guy. However wife moved in three years ago and now I have someone to protect. Wife has joined the neighborhood watch and they are filling her head with all kinds of ideas of bad guys roaming the streets. Logistics: I sleep on the side of the bed about thirty inches from the closet... I keep the 9mm in a nondescript book bag on the top shelf of the closet thinking if SHTF I would roll out of bed, slide open closet, reach in bag and be ready to go. Or another option would be to keep hand spoon in end table next to bed. A more covert idea is to get one of those cool hidden compartment things installed next to the bed... but no way am I spending +$200 on a shelf with a hidden compartment. How do you guys that have a hand spoon for home defense keep it safely stored but within easy reach? I have been eyeballing those small handgun safes with the button combination, anyone using one of them? Thanks in advance. |
Anything you can't do by feel, in the dark? Probably is going to be counterproductive. If you want fast action, complicated thinking tasks in the dark are going to be tough without training and practice. So, I think your current situation is not bad. Is the magazine full, and in the spoon, or is it separate (and full). Empty magazine and the spoon is better as a heavy thing to hit someone with. I know a fellow who has his 5.56 standing by his bedside, full mag, all he needs to do is to chamber the first round and he is ready to go. First five are frangibles, the rest are, um, not.
I would skip any kind of thing that requires thinking or dexterity in the dark, unless I trained regularly to do the thing I needed to do. You know, without getting too specific. |
In a small simple hard case next to my cpap machine, with a small bright flash light and my cell phone.
1911, chamber empty, hammer back, safety off, 10 round mag in it. |
One thing to think about. My father was a cop before I was born, so years later we still had handguns around the house. When I was about 13, our house was robbed and one of the guns was stolen. That's one of the things that I keep in mind when thinking of how to store a gun in the house, is if someone could break in and then take my gun to use in crimes. I definitely would not be happy about that.
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Sentry Safe Quick Access Safe 0.08 Cubic Feet - Wall Safes - Amazon.com I know the would just steal that and pry it open later... but if they get into the house and to the spoon before I can at least they can't use it on my wife or I. I also have a 870 for home defense... however I think easy access to it would be even more problematic. Police choppers were flying over our neighborhood a week or so ago, I moved the hand spoon to the nightstand... it is still there... I feel better about it being closer at hand however also worried about it being such easy access. |
I'm a bachelor - no kids...no wife - - - yet.
. 'Have this Mossberg Mod. 500 Pump Persuader Maxi-Combo 12 ga. on the floor next to my bed. Loaded and ready, safety on. .... . http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412892715.jpg . . A 1911-A1 on my headboard: . . http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412892780.jpg . . This S&W .38 on my coffee table in the living room: . . http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412892848.jpg . . When I'm out and about, sometimes I'm packing this: . . http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412892923.jpg . . And a Browning Hi-Power 9 in both cars. . I sleep fairly well most nights. |
(1) Deadbolt and reinforced striker plate on the solid bedroom door. (2) Gun in nightstand drawer.
I have the keypad safe on my nightstand, since I have kids. |
Note to self: Don't piss off Don!
My first house was in a not so nice neighborhood... I found I slept better with a shotspoon next to my bed. Not sure wifey would be so cool with that. However I'm thinking of installing some of those big hooks in the closet like the ones you use to hang your bicycle in the garage. Have always slept with a big a$$ scary knife under my bed too. |
If it isn't within arms reach, it isn't effective. I have one of mine within arms reach at all times, except when I'm at work. They don't allow it.
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"Note to self: Don't piss off Don!"
~~~~~~~~~~ Nah! I'm a comfort-seeker. . . . . . Until..................... |
My 1911 hangs in my shoulder holster on the clothes hook of my closet. The sliding door is open enough to grab it with ease.
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ziptie an extra inexpensive holster to the backside of the headboard? and one behind the fridge, one under the couch..one taped to the underside of the kitchen sink..etc.
hahah..i also dont have kids and it is just the wife and i..mine is just there.. |
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Wow, I can't imagine living in an area where I felt the need to keep 6 guns loaded and ready like Don does. I live in a flyover state and 10 miles from the nearest small town, but I do have the Rem 870, my wife's Springfield 45 acp, my glock 40, several 22s, and a nice scoped 223. I have a 150 yd shooting range out back for plinking around, but have never felt that I need to keep a loaded gun within arm's reach at all times......that must suck !
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I use a DakSport (need to check spelling) safe on the floor between the bed and nightstand. Floorstanding lamp in front of it so you really have to be looking for it. Sitting on it's end, springloaded door opens up. Pistol is sitting with the barrel over a short dowel rod in a piece of 2x4. Four buttons. Code can be keyed in with either hand depending on how I'm sleeping. Once the door is open it's grab and go. If i have more time I'll grab a long gun. I have a kid in the house so they need to stay locked up. -J
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First, I live in a very safe area, barrier Island with only 2 roads off. About 3 years ago I had an eye opener. The bride was down stairs watching tv while I was up in bed reading a book, heard a blood curdling scream....... HELP, HELP!!!!!!!!!!. No idea what she was screaming about but she is not the type of gal to freak over a spider. Came running down stairs to find a blood covered man standing in front of one of our doors. This hoodlum had to open our back gate and climb a flight of stairs just to open another gate to walk onto the back deck, closest road 300 yards away. Back door was unlocked, as always...... young brother standing there gun in hand, had he been smart enough to open the door he would have been inside our home a just a few feet from my wife. He did not see me coming down the stairs and I was able to slide behind the stairs and get to the office where I had a Kal Tec 32 in a drawer. Was able to come up on him from an angle and informed him that he needed to drop the gun NOW, he complied and then fell to the ground. Turns out he had been shot and stabbed about a mile away in a drug deal, go figure. Cops came, he was arrested, cash in pocket along with crack.... left us to clean up the blood, so much for your public servants helping you out, the only advice was use bleach, it's the only thing that kill HIV!!!!!!
From that day forward, we had a personal protection device close to every door in the home, wife now knows how to handle them with confidence. The moral of the story is, be prepared for anything, even at the home. I carry about 60% of the time, its that 40% that I worry about. Now back to the OP, if you have a gun in a safe with a code and you need it, well,your ****ed and maybe dead. You stated you have no kids so why would you need to put the guns in a safe? Place in in a drawers, cabinet ect. Show your wife where they are and teach her to shoot, make her feel confident with them in her hands...... Unless you are screwing around with a younger women or your secretary, then forget the last few sentences and you are on you own! |
"...have never felt that I need to keep a loaded gun within arm's reach at all times......that must suck !"
~~~~~~~~~ Not a 'need' for me, just a desire. I like firearms and I'm not afraid of them. I've met women who were afraid to go any where near my motorcycles due to fear of them. Other women would come over to my place and weren't the least bit moved by the firearms I have sitting around. My ex fiance is Annie Oakley at the range. I have an SKS stock sitting on one of my kitchen islands and the receiver, etc., sitting in a box right there. A couple of SKSs leaning up against the living room wall - just bought them and haven't checked them out fully. She moved all of the above one day to see how her furniture would look in my place. . Ever fondled an unfired NIB 6" Colt Python .357? It's something to behold ... just to look at what they did to make it what it is. And that action!!! It's a flawless, precision piece of art. . Also, I grew up in No. Dakota and hunted as early as I can remember. Made my own slingshots...shot blackbirds. A BB rifle at such an early age I could hardly cock it. 22 rifles in kitchen corner of the farm house and in the barn. Shot my first buck when I was 9 or 10...got my first lesson on dressing it out on that occasion. My brother shot a deer out through our bedroom window one season with his own .270 when he was 13 yrs. old. . . . OK, I'm done...thought I'd say more...but it's all been said. . . It's either in your blood or not. . Best, . . . PS And no, it doesn't "suck". I got a chuckle out of that one. :) . . Correction: 'Think I was a year or two older when I shot my first buck. |
Joel8005
. That's a heart-pounding story. |
"I live in a flyover state and 10 miles from the nearest small town,..."
~~~~~~~~ Perhaps why you don't feel the need. You say tomatoes, I say tomahtoes. . ;) |
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I have a permit, so I carry my gun. If I leave the house, it goes with me so when I come home, I've got it. I have, well had, need a new one a safe that any other useable gun stayed in if I wasn't home and the gun was. I really, REALLY don't want any gun that I own getting into the hands of someone that shouldn't have it, like a criminal. So, there is a reason to keep them locked up. If nothing else, then lock them up when you leave the house, and get the gun back out when you get home if you can't take them with you. Something else to think about is a wall safe. That way if you have a break in, they may not find the wall safe, and hopefully, they can't get into it or take it with them. That's better than having a gun safe that they can take and pry open later. |
I keep a .40 Sig 226 in a push button safe in my closet. Loaded magazine on board, but none in the chamber. I guess I'm a safety nut.
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I rotate my nighttime protection.......it's either my S&W 1911 or my S&W M-27 .357. My daughters are now out of the house but when they happen to be home, i leave the gun(s) in my safe.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412912783.jpg
here's my Pre-Model 27, 5 screw, 1954 vintage 1973 911 T MFI Coupe, Aubergine Steve |
I live in a rural area, & have never heard of a break in around here. Some people have lived here for decades, and houses are a minimum of maybe 200 yards from each other. However everyone has something in their house ready to go. Also everyone keeps eyes out for activity out of the normal. The spoons I own were mostly bought thirty plus years ago when there was talk of limiting them. So I have them dispersed around the house hidden in different places easy to access, with one next to the bed. I like the idea of putting it behind the headboard & think I'll try it.
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My father's only recently begun collecting spoons (why do we call them spoons?)
He keeps one on his person most of the time, one in his office drawer at home, one in the arm rest console of his sectional sofa, one on either side of the bed rails within arms reach from being in bed, and a few others in various locations around the house. Also has hidden holsters in each of his vehicles. He's got low-profile gun safes under the seats in his daily driven cars for when he can't carry somewhere. I keep mine loaded and chambered under my side of the bed. Still waiting on my new XD9 to be delivered from my parents as it will become my newest conceal carry. |
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Funny thing is - I've adopted the use of 'spoon' at my work and with my friends. This way, if someone who is against firearms overhears my conversation, they will just think I have some weird fascination with silverware... Anyway - back to the OP -- when I'm home, I take my spoon out of my push-button safe and place it in this which is on my side of the bed (Sorry for the huge pic from Amazon...): http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg http://www.amazon.com/Lockdown-222502-Handgun-Night-Guardian/dp/B00EB5OUVA/ref=sr_1_29?ie=UTF8&qid=1412948385&sr=8-29&keywords=bedside+gun+holster Full magazine in the spoon, chamber empty, safety off. I hear a suspicious noise, it's roll out of bed, grab spoon, rack and take up defensive spot where I can still see my bedroom door. (behind dresser, in bathroom, or behind bed). If my phone is near, I call 911 (state my address twice, and let them know I have an intruder in my house, I have a gun, and I described what I am wearing, and leave the phone open for them to record what transpires next). Next I yell "Who are you? Get out of my house! I have a gun! The police are coming!" If there is no acknowledgement from the intruder, and if my bedroom doorknob turns and the door opens, the trigger on my spoon is squeezed. |
A good idea. I like it this unit.
. "...and I described what I am wearing,..." :eek: |
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Hello Kitty PJ's and bunny slippers.... :D
I've heard of break ins where the perp runs out of the home wearing sweats or PJ's pretending to be the homeowner, and gets away. On the other hand, if I shoot a prerp, or am holding someone at gun point, I want to minimize the chance of mistaken identity... -Z |
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Thoughts of getting a cheap holster and strapping it to the underside of beside table. Also thoughts of installing a 6" sewer pipe and flange in the floor... sort of a poor mans floor safe. We have a metal tube bedframe so can't strap it behind headboard. Going to check on that thing Z-man posted, that looks pretty cool. This looks promising: http://www.amazon.com/Wolverine-Holsters-Under-Desk-Holster/dp/B00359L13S/ref=wl_mb_wl_huc_mrai_1_dp |
Another good idea...47 Amazon 5 stars out of 51.
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Here's the unit I have marketed under a different name. Battery operated but mine has an external jack for power. I picked up a generic AC/DC charger from somewhere. Nice not having to remember if the batteries are going to work or not. Old photos of my set up below. -J
http://www.amazon.com/Gunmaster-Sportsafe-DOJ-Portable-Safe/dp/B0002ILCV6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412992966&sr=8-1&keywords=dac+sport+safe http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412993363.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1412993387.jpg |
Ok, if you have a gun at the home for personal protection and have it locked away you are naive about your chances to respond quickly or get the upper hand. And, if you are scared that you might find someone in your home with that gun if it is not locked away you most likely do not have the balls to hold it in your hands and pull the trigger anyway. Suggestion.... security cameras and alarm system.
Owning hand or long guns is not for everyone. Cheers, |
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Because you leave the house, and leave the gun at home on/in your bedside table, or where ever. You get home and someone has broken into your house and may still be inside which means that they may now be holding your gun. And because that's a concern, you don't have the balls to hold your gun and use it? I'm just trying to figure out the logic. |
You guys are waaay over thinking this.
I keep a single action (.45 Colt - what else, for those that know me) in the nightstand right next to my bed. Pretty darn simple. In the dark, under pressure, I can work it better than my own dick. Familiarity is key, folks. Got kids? Whatever clever little scheme you think you have come up with, I assure you, I would have defeated it as a kid. The only real answer to kids and guns is to take the mystery out of it for them. Remove the "forbidden fruit" attraction by exposing them to your guns. Let them know they have free access any time they want, so long as it is with you. Pretty soon the fascination begins to wane, and the guns become just another part of the backdrop at home. Neighbor kids? If your own are rather blasé about the whole thing, and better yet have seen the damage they can do, there is little chance they will allow some untrained, wild eyed idiot of a friend to even get close to them. This worked for me and my siblings (who grew up with unsecured guns in the house), my parents, my grandparents, and as far back as there were firearms in either side of the family. Worked for my kids, too. It will likely work for theirs as well. |
I have kids, so I'm either carrying or they're in the safe during the day. At night I unlock the safe before I go to bed, so I have quick access without punching in the combo at night. With no kids, I would get a bedside holster and keep it there for quick and easy access.
BTW, I totally agree with Jeff. I have taken all three of my kids shooting, on multiple occasions. They know that guns are loud, dangerous, a little scary, and not toys. |
Steve / Masraum
Really, if you do not get my statement there is absolutely no way I can explain or break down any further. Your post suggests that my logic if different than yours, understood but mine is based on experience and yours is based on wishful thinking and fantasy. Cheers, |
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Wow!!!!!!!!!!
. I'd say that you do know!!! Lovely, aren't they? ;) |
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