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The Element Of Irreducible Rascality as Alan Watts calls it (we're all a little bit of a bastard)
Jim

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8360691)

Back to the OP. Why would anyone want to deal with a scoundrel? If someone is a known liar, thief, low life why deal with him or her at all.

There was a famous scoundrel based in SE Oklahoma. Gene Stipe.

Gene Stipe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He was all powerful and ran the state legislature and his part of the state with a boss hog like iron hand. He finally went to jail and the state was a much better place with him in jail. His political machine is still running things down there but the power has faded from the rest of the state.

Anyone wanting to do business in that part of the state back then had to deal with him.

the devil ya know...

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 8360096)

People come in all shapes and sizes. That said, yes, those that espouse their righteousness the loudest often hide a darkness.

I like this. I don't have any perfect friends, because they are honest. NOBODY is perfect, and those that pretend to be normally suck to hang out with.:cool:

Interesting thread but I really don't think the theory is valid in all cases.

I've known lots of "straight" people who just live a normal life.
However... I have got better at sussing people out. If you spend enough time with someone you soon get a sense of whether or not you can trust them.

And often there is no way to know what's in someone's head until it's to late.

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Years ago I met a lady through a friend. At first she seemed conservative and nice but somehow I got this sense that something was wrong or she was hiding something.
So I didn't follow up or communicate with her in anyway.

As it turned out she was having a long term sexual affair with her half brother (same father, different mother). That just floored me but after the shock wore off I wasn't surprised.

There are some sick people out there.

I have a wide selection of people I know. I can't say we are friends but we are friendly. Some are 'churchy', some are quite, some are loud and obnoxious, some are partiers, some are hard core. i have to tell ya, the ones that aren't all that righteous and tend to drift to the bad said form time to time seem a lot more honest. The goody goody and the 'churchys' seem to have a certain creepiness factor after you get to know them through the years.

I think there are more times then less I would rather deal with folks that i know will cheat or lie from time to time - at least there are no surprises and basically I know what I'm getting into.

I remember my Father told me once (when I was 17) to look to marry a girl thats been around...a lot. Don't marry a virgin. His philosophy was that if she falls for you, you were better then all those guys. If she cheats on you it won't be a big surprise, and chances are she is pretty well school in what she likes and maybe how to please as well. The up side on top of it all is that if you fall in love with a 'slut' and accept her for her past, she will look at you different (maybe) then all the other guys that just used her like a whore. For what its worth I didn't take his advice with my first wife, or my second...we shall see ;-)

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8360691)

Gene Stipe!! I remember him well.
He ran McAlester. His ghost still does...

Carter