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strupgolf 11-19-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8361032)
That is why I use my debit card for most purchases. The payment just comes out of my checking account.

Not the best idea my friend. Scammers love debit cards but not credit cards. If you get scammed by debit, your money is gone: you have a recourse on a credit card.

onewhippedpuppy 11-19-2014 01:44 PM

My father in law operates a small lumberyard and hardware store in central KS. The vast majority of his customers are on monthly accounts, so he has no incentive to give up around 6% of his sales to the credit card company. It is funny when the occasional out of town customer slaps down the plastic. But they nearly always go around the corner to the ATM and come back with cash.

speeder 11-19-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by strupgolf (Post 8361076)
Not the best idea my friend. Scammers love debit cards but not credit cards. If you get scammed by debit, your money is gone: you have a recourse on a credit card.

Not true, unless it's some Stone Age debit card with no logo on it. One of my debit cards is a Visa and the other is a MC. They both have 100% fraud protection and it's been activated countless times when my card got breached. Where do you get your information? :confused:

on2wheels52 11-19-2014 01:57 PM

On the bottom of my business card:

In God we Trust
All others pay cash

Jim

74-911 11-19-2014 01:57 PM

In my experience, it is very common in this area for smaller contractors, ( i.e. painters, repairmen, landscapers, tree trimmers, etc.) to quote two prices: one for credit card or check and one for cash. The going rate seems to be 10% off for cash and I am sure this all gets reported as income to the IRS.

look 171 11-19-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Head416 (Post 8360829)
I don't go to cash only places because... I NEVER HAVE CASH AND IT'S 2014 GET OUT OF THE STONE AGES!!!!

ok, don't go. its really that simple. why do they have to get out of the stone age just for you? Why??? I don't care how they charge me as long as I get what I want even if I have to trade my underwear for it. its their business, they do as they like.

Tobra 11-19-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by strupgolf (Post 8361076)
Not the best idea my friend. Scammers love debit cards but not credit cards. If you get scammed by debit, your money is gone: you have a recourse on a credit card.

You do have less protections with a debit card than a credit card in most cases.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-19-2014 03:16 PM

Yep. Plus currency grosses me out - thinking of how many hands it's been in, where those hands have been... Eww.

I don't like Big Data and the tracking / profiling that comes with electronic payments but the convenience of a debit card just can't be beat.

Drives me nuts when places don't take cards - I don't go to "cash only" dives. Anyone can get a Square reader for about 20 bucks and the cost per transaction is pretty low. Heck I have one and I've used it to accept payments for stuff sold on Craigslist. These Luddite places simply need to get with the times.

If I really start to get more concerned with Big Data knowing and tracking too much I'll do more cash transactions but for the time being the inconvenience, potential security risk and general disgustingness of having to cart around currency is outweighed by the comparative convenience and cleanliness of my debit card (or ApplePay, if it catches on like I think it may)

onewhippedpuppy 11-19-2014 03:25 PM

Last time my in laws looked into credit cards for their business, the take was 5-6% due to their relatively low volume of sales. That's pretty significant for a small business. If you can get away without it, why not?

look 171 11-19-2014 03:36 PM

I pay cash in restaurant, almost always unless its a huge bill over 100 bucks. I go to the hardware store for some bolts and sandpaper, I pay cash and be done with it.

look 171 11-19-2014 03:37 PM

Oh, I take checks only (way beyond stone age) for my business.

tedg04 11-19-2014 03:41 PM

There are scammers that have merchant accounts too... FYI

Spokane has two long-time business that have been or are Cash Only for the majority of time (Dick's Drive In still is, and the White Elephant only recently started accepting CC's - after Cabela's came into our market challenging them). Both are waaaaayyyy above board.

Several other businesses have gone under or been closed for tax evasion.

5-6% seems astronomical to me. Even on low volumes Square, PayPal, even US Bank, etc. would likely be in the 3% range. There may be a monthly charge as well, but I would estimate less than $100 (from what my clients report - I'm not in the banking industry).

It is an inconvenience when you come across something you want and have no cash (has happened to me). However, if the business is busy without it why give up any %? And while you can evade taxes easily in a cash business, it can be done with CC charges as well.

KNS 11-19-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 8360786)
I love cash paying customers, and even discount a little bit for it. Not because I am trying to cheat the tax man, but because, cash never bounces, there are no extra fees added on by the credit card companies for accepting it, I dont need any extra equipment or technology to take it, l and I don't have to wait for it to clear before I can draw off it. Accepting cash, saves me money in the long run.
Have you ever looked at what the bank, and credit card companies take from a small business at the end of the month? I just paid $150.00 for new checks yesterday.
And you know what? A nice big pile of cash in my wallet at the end of the day , just makes me feel good.
I do however understand what you are saying. Some will cheat.

If I go to a merchant I like and enjoy doing business with, I'll pay cash for the very reasons stated above (for the benefit of the business owner).

Little things like nuts and bolts at the hardware store - cash.

Nostril Cheese 11-19-2014 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8361210)
Yep. Plus currency grosses me out - thinking of how many hands it's been in, where those hands have been... Eww.

I don't like Big Data and the tracking / profiling that comes with electronic payments but the convenience of a debit card just can't be beat.

Drives me nuts when places don't take cards - I don't go to "cash only" dives. Anyone can get a Square reader for about 20 bucks and the cost per transaction is pretty low. Heck I have one and I've used it to accept payments for stuff sold on Craigslist. These Luddite places simply need to get with the times.

If I really start to get more concerned with Big Data knowing and tracking too much I'll do more cash transactions but for the time being the inconvenience, potential security risk and general disgustingness of having to cart around currency is outweighed by the comparative convenience and cleanliness of my debit card (or ApplePay, if it catches on like I think it may)

You're sexy when you're paranoid.

id10t 11-19-2014 04:08 PM

The other thing about taking cards is that you dont see the money for a few months. Need or want it quicker and the service takes a higher percent

Baz 11-19-2014 04:34 PM

As I read the initial post I was thinking....cash only.....huh.....we don't have any of these here.

Then I remembered......"Victor's Backstreet BBQ" on N. Pine St. Legendary little cafe and insanely good food. Victor the owner and chef had worked and won a bunch of culinary awards in the Cumberland area before re-locating here.

It wasn't a big deal to pay cash for me. Heck the food was so dang good I would have stood on my head and gargled peanut butter if I had to.

Well I guess Victor didn't handle his financials too good because after a couple years he closed the place down and moved away and then I heard he committed suicide. How sad is that? :(

I purchase supplies from several places on a regular basis and they pretty much all take cash or credit cards but I noticed there are some who no longer accept checks, and I don't blame them.

onlycafe 11-19-2014 05:47 PM

i've been running this joint for twenty eight years and so far i am still not taking cards. when they offer a card that i, as the merchant, don't have to pay to play, i may rethink the no-card policy.
i operate for cash, check, or an interesting barter.

Nostril Cheese 11-19-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 8361439)
i've been running this joint for twenty eight years and so far i am still not taking cards. when they offer a card that i, as the merchant, don't have to pay to play, i may rethink the no-card policy.
i operate for cash, check, or an interesting barter.

I have a bunch of Gumby memorabilia. Make me some food. Post haste.

Head416 11-19-2014 06:07 PM

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<div style="font-style:italic">I don't go to cash only places because... I NEVER HAVE CASH AND IT'S 2014 GET OUT OF THE STONE AGES!!!!</div>
</div>ok, don't go. its really that simple. why do they have to get out of the stone age just for you? Why??? I don't care how they charge me as long as I get what I want even if I have to trade my underwear for it. its their business, they do as they like.
No, they don't have to change for me. So I do to go back.

When I have cash it's quickly gone. Then I don't have cash anymore. Now I need to get cash. It's just another errand I don't need in my life.

Tilikum Turbo 11-19-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Head416 (Post 8360829)
I don't go to cash only places because... I NEVER HAVE CASH AND IT'S 2014 GET OUT OF THE STONE AGES!!!!


Anyone ever have their identity stolen using a dollar bill?

Start laying down dollar bills...5's, 20's, 50's, and Hundred dollar bills...then you have a better sense of where your money is going, rather than whipping out that card(especially bites if there's interest as icing on the cake).


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