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Don Plumley 02-03-2015 08:31 PM

ATR-72 Down in Taipei
 
Stunning dash cam video of the crash:

<iframe width="570" height="428" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0fWhYJNZt08" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

porsche4life 02-03-2015 08:57 PM

Holy crap! What would cause that?

slodave 02-03-2015 09:05 PM

Looks like it was trying (unsuccessfully) to recover from a stall.

LeeH 02-03-2015 09:08 PM

Close one for the taxi driver:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423030111.jpg

slodave 02-03-2015 09:38 PM

Yup, stalled on take off...

BBC News - TransAsia crash: Eight dead as plane crashes into Taiwan river
"The ATR-72 had just taken off from Taipei Songshan Airport and was headed to the outlying Kinmen islands, just off the coast of south-east China, CNA said."

DonDavis 02-03-2015 09:38 PM

At least nine dead as Taiwan plane cartwheels into river on take-off

and

At least 8 dead after plane crashes into Taiwan river | Fox News

DonDavis 02-03-2015 09:42 PM

Now reporting 12. Hope that's all...

DonDavis 02-03-2015 09:50 PM

Here's an enhanced version of the same footage.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qGeupj8b62k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

A930Rocket 02-03-2015 10:31 PM

It's amazing anyone lived through that.

A930Rocket 02-03-2015 10:33 PM

Wow! Looks like the wing just nicked the taxi. It was his lucky day.

Quote:

Here's an enhanced version of the same footage.<br>
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<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qGeupj8b62k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

dewolf 02-03-2015 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 8470157)
Looks like it was trying (unsuccessfully) to recover from a stall.

That was my first thought to. Pilot error?

DonDavis 02-03-2015 10:59 PM

If this picture is from the roadway where it clipped the taxi, it looks like the aircraft skidded to a relatively soft stop in the water.

Frankly, when I first saw the video, it looked like it slammed into the ground at nearly the same elevation as the roadway and all were lost.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1423036491.jpg

pavulon 02-03-2015 11:24 PM

left wing stalls (loses lift) as it is slowest on the inside of an apparent turn, no altitude for recovery>>> into the water.

Could happen anywhere but seems to be in asia and/or involving asian aircraft disproportionately of late. Something is amiss there and with incidents of this frequency, the issue is either being covered up or is so deeply rooted that it is really tough to undo.

ErVikingo 02-04-2015 04:36 AM

I am not a pilot but I can't really see the flaps deployed. Perhaps not required for that particular airframe ????

GH85Carrera 02-04-2015 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8470151)
Holy crap! What would cause that?

Pilot error. Lack of training.

911_Dude 02-04-2015 05:07 AM

Not a stall. The pilot was radioing that he had a flame out on one engine. At takeoff power with an engine failure you must add a lot of rudder to keep the plane level with all the asymetric thrust. It is completely within the capability of the aircraft to safely loose an engine on take off. Unfortunatly it was beyond the capability of these two pilots. Pretty lame. US airline pilots practice this stuff every year. It should be second nature, although it is challenging. They just let it get away from them.

FLYGEEZER 02-04-2015 05:30 AM

Ran outta airspeed & altitude at the same time.

Jeff Higgins 02-04-2015 05:31 AM

Crikey - I just left Taipei last Friday. I was driving that stretch of freeway every day.

onewhippedpuppy 02-04-2015 06:43 AM

I definitely have no desire to fly in that region of our world.

petrolhead611 02-04-2015 06:48 AM

I saw theairspeed /altitude chart on another forum; dont think he ran out of airspeed(109knots just before impact) but he sure ran out of altitude.


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