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ATR-72 Down in Taipei

Stunning dash cam video of the crash:


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Holy crap! What would cause that?
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Looks like it was trying (unsuccessfully) to recover from a stall.
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Close one for the taxi driver:

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Yup, stalled on take off...

BBC News - TransAsia crash: Eight dead as plane crashes into Taiwan river
"The ATR-72 had just taken off from Taipei Songshan Airport and was headed to the outlying Kinmen islands, just off the coast of south-east China, CNA said."
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At least nine dead as Taiwan plane cartwheels into river on take-off

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At least 8 dead after plane crashes into Taiwan river | Fox News
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Now reporting 12. Hope that's all...
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Here's an enhanced version of the same footage.

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It's amazing anyone lived through that.
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Wow! Looks like the wing just nicked the taxi. It was his lucky day.

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Looks like it was trying (unsuccessfully) to recover from a stall.
That was my first thought to. Pilot error?
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If this picture is from the roadway where it clipped the taxi, it looks like the aircraft skidded to a relatively soft stop in the water.

Frankly, when I first saw the video, it looked like it slammed into the ground at nearly the same elevation as the roadway and all were lost.

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left wing stalls (loses lift) as it is slowest on the inside of an apparent turn, no altitude for recovery>>> into the water.

Could happen anywhere but seems to be in asia and/or involving asian aircraft disproportionately of late. Something is amiss there and with incidents of this frequency, the issue is either being covered up or is so deeply rooted that it is really tough to undo.
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I am not a pilot but I can't really see the flaps deployed. Perhaps not required for that particular airframe ????
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Holy crap! What would cause that?
Pilot error. Lack of training.
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Not a stall. The pilot was radioing that he had a flame out on one engine. At takeoff power with an engine failure you must add a lot of rudder to keep the plane level with all the asymetric thrust. It is completely within the capability of the aircraft to safely loose an engine on take off. Unfortunatly it was beyond the capability of these two pilots. Pretty lame. US airline pilots practice this stuff every year. It should be second nature, although it is challenging. They just let it get away from them.
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Ran outta airspeed & altitude at the same time.
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Crikey - I just left Taipei last Friday. I was driving that stretch of freeway every day.
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I definitely have no desire to fly in that region of our world.
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I saw theairspeed /altitude chart on another forum; dont think he ran out of airspeed(109knots just before impact) but he sure ran out of altitude.

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