I don't have one now, but I'm pissed off to get one.
 

I don't have a gun of any type. I've been seeing a lot of drive-by, store hold up types, by many of the types I would like to see 6 feet under. Where do I start? I know, a gun store guidence, et al. What type of gun would anyone suggest to get for a small carry type. I have no mercy for anyone who comes up on me, or anyone who commits any kind of crime in front of me. DON'T piss me off. Any thoughts on this.

I don't have one now, but I'm pissed off to get one.
 

So what happened?

Don't go looking to be a vigilante. DEFINITELY don't go looking to be a vigilante and post about it on a public BBS...

That said there's no one-size-fits-all answer. Beretta, Colt, Sig, Glock, S&W, Kimber, Springfield and many others make fine products. Budget? Size? Caliber choice?

Nothing happened. I'm just pissed off at all the lowlife who think they deserve what you have, I just want to be ready.

Go to a gun range, rent a few different types and calibres. Get an idea what you like.

Looks good, good luck.

I do not think they teach what is most needed at a gun range.
With the absence of the draft we have a generation of men with zero for concepts except for video games.
I hardly think they count.
For instance the mental commitment.
The laws of protection in "your" state.
The mental calisthenics involved is probably more important then reaching for you chosen hot lead squirter .
In the advent of the "emergency" most people will not do the "right" thing.

Strup, I can hear your frustration. It's good to hear no one has been injured.
I own several weapons and have my CCW.

I'd recommend taking a training/demonstration course.
Rent several different calibers and rank them.
You'll know when to purchase.

Let's get you up to speed properly and safely by learning from someone you feel comfortable with.

Good luck!

Best,
Don

All these gun threads... I guess America really is a thug culture.

And I'm a conservative.

As Jurgen's experience illustrated, if you think you need to buy a gun and start carrying, its time to move.

Seriously. There is still A LOT of America out there where you can be unarmed and your family will be safe. Move.

Here's a link to a course listing offered at my local spoon store.

Urban Firearms Institute .:. Training

My thoughts as well. I own some gats but I feel no need to carry them outside of my domicile. Not judging someone who does feel the need, (these threads demonstrate that there are some dangerous cities or areas in the U.S.), but I've never been in a situation where having a gun would have been beneficial. Maybe a few where it made me feel safe, like camping or traveling, but never needed.

When I get old and can be easily beaten down, I might consider carrying depending on how dangerous life is then. Random street crime is extremely rare in Los Angeles, I talk to a lot of people and read the LA Times everyday. :cool:

I think you all missed the green font. If I am wrong, the OP needs some counseling.

Talk to your lawyer first. And become an expert on self defense laws before you do anything - self defense is an excellent licence to misbehave but you need to understand the rules first :D

1). Don't become an economic victim. Be aware. Avoid. Discourage at all cost.
2). Don't be an easy victim when the time comes.
3).

In fairness every time I see some jackhole, sideways-hat and baggy pants wearing, tatted-up, pierced douche I'm glad I'm either carrying CCW or have ready access to my "little friend". It's only a matter of time before one of these douchenozzles tries something and it'll be nice to know that I ultimately hold the final word and authority on the resolution of the situation. I definitely don't go looking for trouble and I definitely don't want to have to draw down on someone but if things escalate the wrong way it is very comforting knowing it's likely that I'm ultimately going to walk away okay.

Yes, America does have a "thug culture". We've been glorifying gang members and ghetto trash since about the 1980s - certainly since the 1990s. ([emoji767])rap music promotes it, etc. It's a lot worse in urban areas but the rural ones aren't immune, sadly. Too many douchebag punk whiggers out there looking for excuses to prove how tough they are to their dropout, go-nowhere-in-life buddies.

Having a CCW means a lot fewer things to worry about (but there are a few new ones too, so take training and be smart about it).

Thank goodness I've never had to draw on another human being and I truly hope I don't ever have to - much less actually shoot anyone to protect myself or those I care about. I don't ever want to but I'm awfully glad I at least have the option if the situation ever arises and goes pear-shaped.

Be careful. Do your homework, take classes, train up, be smart. Stay cool and don't look for trouble. Good luck!

Yup, just another trolling post. Move along.....

And be AWARE! Awareness and avoidance of situations is the best defense.

Yes, my thought is you need to cool down.

OP, Don't let any of this nay sayers get in your way. You have a destiny to fulfill

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There comes great responsibility with firearm ownership. A gun does not make you judge, jury, and executioner.

Here are two scenarios:

1. You have a CCW and your firearm with you, and are making your Slurpee at the local gas station convenience store. A thug comes in, points a gun at the cashier and demands money. The cashier opens the drawer... what do you do next?

2. You are in a restaurant with your family and you have a CCW and your firearm with you. A guy comes in with an AR-15 and starts shooting up the place. He starts going table by table putting bullets into everyone with no rhyme or reason. What do you do next?

Two very different situations - two very different ways to deal with it. In the first situation, the robber just wants the cash and get out of there. Drawing your gun can lead to an escalation of the situation more than anything. That is something you don't want to do. In the second situation, it is more clear that the perp is ready and willing to do harm and kill. At that point, drawing a gun may be your only line of defense and a means of diffusing the situation.

The two scenarios I outline above are easily distinguishable - but in real life, the lines between those types of situations are blurred. Having a firearm will not help you make the right choice - but it does give you more options...

-Z-man.

a good post zman.

I cannot believe that you people have to /choose to live like this.
A totally foreign concept to the northern cheesehead. :)

Life seldom works like you have planned. Throw in a mean thug or one hyped up on chrystal meth and Things are really gonna go the hell in a handbasket.

Some good stuff on situatuional awareness here, but not enough on your mindset. A response/judjment needs to be as near to automatic as you can get it.
No practice here......the best you can do is be intimately knowlegeable about your pierce and the moves that you may need to make to survive. Getting old don't help ......cept may be the judgment bit.....fight or flee....that flee option may go out the window as you get old....thugs depend on that, so they'll most offen pick an old fart or woman. Me? I'll take the flee option....given a decent opportunity.

*I do not want to shoot anybody*.....but given no choice I am certain I will......not to kill, given the opportunity.....but the perp won't feel up to chasing me when I get around to the flee part.

Bill Cosby said: "when you are mad and pull the trigger, you can never take that bullet back"

Sometimes those that carry get themselves into more situations than those that don't carry. Especially road rage type of situations.......

If you catch someone breaking into your car, things get out of hand and you shoot the suspect? You now have problems that will chase you for years.......

Trouble can find you no matter where you live. I hope you don't find that out the hard way.

oh God..can we all agree to call these Z-enarios? please?

+1

"Your honor, may I submit into evidence the transcript of an online forum post from a Pelican Parts - Porsche Parts & BMW Parts & Mercedes Parts - Automotive Parts and Accessories - Porsche & BMW & Mercedes where it clearly shows the defendent..."

I am assuming that you have never been active with a rifle or pistol.
A good start would be not getting a firearm because of anger.

What I suggest is go into gun ownership with the right attitude.

Purchase a Ruger 10/22 or similiar 22 cal. long rifle.
They run around $250.

Go online and find the closest "Appleseed" clinic.
Register and go to the two day event.

When you complete the course of History and shooting, you will have calm sense
of gun ownership.
You will be confident in your shooting and firearm safety.

At this point you will have a better sense of why you want or not want to carry around a concealed weapon.

Me thinks someone's yankin' our chain....

I cannot believe that some of you don't get this. Once you have been a victim, you will never be lackadaisical about your own, or your families safety again .
Bad things happen to good people in nice areas every day.

A very good example is the crazy that went into the Movie Theater in Denver, and wiped out 12 lives and injured many others..I'll bet they never believed it could or would happen to them that way..

Sorry Vash - I'll get off my soapbox now....


That is all, carry on...

-Z

I was convinced that he said "Would you like a drink?"

^Gogar... you funny

Anyhow, could start with the matching luggage
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Ohhhhh yeah!


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First you want to make a list of which ones you want to shoot to kill, then maim and finally only wound. Prioritize members in each list. I'm not sure you want to give them actual names but be descriptive so you know which one you will be shooting.

You may want to start of slow and just go for wounding first. Will give you some practice and allow you to be a little more in the moment for the kills.

Then go get a gun and have at it. Don't be discouraged if you are only wounding folks in the maim category. Give yourself some time.

Time to go "Dirty Harry".

i remember hearing somewhere that every bullet is attached to a lawyer.

I have a CCW. My worst fear is having to use it. I will go to jail, if however briefly. I will be sued (have assets). I don't relish the idea of taking a human life. I will, however, if myself or those I love are threatened, but that will start a whole lot of bad things.

Ok everyone, I've come down off of my soapbox. Enough said. After reading through all the comments, it sounds like a bad stupid idea. I'm not out on any vigilante crusade, just wanted to have a small gun for protection. I don't live in, nor do I visit any high crime /dangerous areas. It just seems that the lowlife are getting bolder in areas that seemed safe. Now where's that issue of Guns & Ammo.
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