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BE911SC 03-24-2015 08:10 PM

Clarkson to be "sacked" on Wednesday
 
Daily Mirror. Take it for what it's worth.

Suspended Jeremy Clarkson 'will be sacked by BBC tomorrow after Top Gear fracas' - Mirror Online

Dumb fuc*ing BBC suits. I suppose the producer will get a nice settlement for his pain and suffering.

BE911SC 03-24-2015 08:16 PM

Jeremy Clarkson 'tried to apologise' to Oisin Tymon - Telegraph

That producer sounds like a real pus*y. Either that or Clarkson really did go too far. Still, why crybaby away your best meal ticket? Why let the suits kill the show when an apology and maybe some money for pain and suffering settles the deal? I have a feeling this Oisin Tymon fellow has blackballed himself, or at least earned the enduring scorn and ridicule of many a gearhead worldwide.

Jrboulder 03-24-2015 08:27 PM

This is the perfect time for nexfix or amazon to sign Clarkson and let him do whatever he wants.

stomachmonkey 03-24-2015 08:27 PM

His contract ends this month.

Seems like if true his contract will not be renewed which is not the same as being sacked.

He has a separate contract for BBC Top Gear Live events which runs IIRC till September.

If they sack him it'll be for that contract and not the televised show.

WPOZZZ 03-24-2015 08:42 PM

Porsche brand Ambassador! lol

Z-man 03-24-2015 08:50 PM

If Clarkson is truly gone from Top Gear, then Top Gear has officially jumped the shark.

Kinda reminds me of the whole Charlie Sheen / Two and a Half Men 'drama' - show went south after his departure. And Charlie Sheen also went south...

-Z

HardDrive 03-24-2015 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jrboulder (Post 8545933)
This is the perfect time for nexfix or amazon to sign Clarkson and let him do whatever he wants.

This.

varmint 03-24-2015 09:05 PM

i hope they replace him with rutledge wood

sc_rufctr 03-24-2015 09:20 PM

Sacking him would have to be the dumbest thing ever...

I really don't think the "BBC suits" are that stupid.

aap1966 03-24-2015 09:49 PM

The BBC is government funded, it'll take a hit with Clarkson's loss but that won't be the driving force behind the decision. Clarkson is counter to the whole BBC culture. He is politically incorrect, refusing to bow before the gods of global warming, multiculturalism and denigration of traditional Western values. He had to go, as such defiance cannot be tolerated in popular culture, and this has provided an excuse.
You can't make a living espousing everything your employer opposes and expect to get away with it forever.

afterburn 549 03-24-2015 11:55 PM

Ivory tower decisions at their best........LOL
Or govt "run" just proves govt can not do anything of a business nature .
To get rid if him will just make someone else very well off.
The whole crew might migrate with him.?
What a shock !
Who knows >?

wdfifteen 03-25-2015 01:02 AM

Clarkson's on-screen irreverence is hilarious. But if I had an employee who was so out of control punched a co-worker over food I wouldn't want the liability of keeping him around. Being a popular star shouldn't exempt one from civilized behavior.

dewolf 03-25-2015 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8546067)
Clarkson's on-screen irreverence is hilarious. But if I had an employee who was so out of control punched a co-worker over food I wouldn't want the liability of keeping him around. Being a popular star shouldn't exempt one from civilized behavior.

I tend to agree. In any other work place environment he would've been out the door the same day.

onewhippedpuppy 03-25-2015 02:52 AM

I wonder if this also relates to his journalism gig with Top Gear magazine? All of them actually write excellent columns.

Ultimately this will hurt the Top Gear franchise more than it will hurt Clarkson, May, and Hammond, who have said that they won't return without him. The failures of every Top Gear spinoff show that it's not the show concept, it's the execution and chemistry between the presenters. If they do move on I predict that the show dies a slow death, while the three amigos move on to do a similar show on another network.

onewhippedpuppy 03-25-2015 03:02 AM

The U.S. version sucks because the hosts suck. There is no chemistry there, it's all acting. The UK version is great because the interaction is genuine.

wdfifteen 03-25-2015 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8546105)
The UK version is great because the interaction is genuine.

Plus Clarkson is a brilliant wit.

GH85Carrera 03-25-2015 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8546105)
The U.S. version sucks because the hosts suck. There is no chemistry there, it's all acting. The UK version is great because the interaction is genuine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8546159)
Plus Clarkson is a brilliant wit.

Very much so.

I guess I am a glutton for punishment and I keep trying the American version because I figure it has to get better. It has not. Tanner is the only one that can drive at all. The other guys are just bumbling not funny buffoons with nothing to add. It is obvious they are not real "car guys" and just bad actors.

I have seen a couple of the Australian version and it was not bad.

herr_oberst 03-25-2015 04:51 AM

The guy with the beard on TGA is very much a car guy in real life. But the show still sucks. A fraction of the budget of TGUK, no chemistry between the "talent", and often times the skits are just warmed over versions of ideas that were used on TGUK.

Pitiful. Just pitiful, the whole sordid mess...

imcarthur 03-25-2015 05:25 AM

Let's face it. TG is stale. For the last few seasons, it was getting painfully obvious that the boys were just going through the motions. Their jokes & hi jinks were all getting stale & it was time to kill the show. Sure they could have - and probably would have - milked the cash cow for years to come but it was over.

Ian

asphaltgambler 03-25-2015 05:45 AM

OR maybe his 'cousin' will show up in his absence like they did on Dukes of Hazard - when they tried to sell that ***** to viewers then.............

legion 03-25-2015 06:21 AM

It's too bad that such a fun show had to end this way.

Z-man 03-25-2015 06:26 AM

It is official, Clarkson's contract will not be renewed with BBC TV.

BBC Ditches 'Top Gear' Host Jeremy Clarkson

There goes the show...

-Z

tadd 03-25-2015 06:40 AM

Its just a TV show... geeze. I watch it and I enjoy it, but its been on a long time. They will all find something else to do getting paid stupid money.

Hitting someone is just too far... Maybe Clarkson should have thought about his show mates and himself before throwing that punch?

Christien 03-25-2015 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 8546075)
I tend to agree. In any other work place environment he would've been out the door the same day.

Bingo. I'm married to a public-sector union member (teacher) which is probably the hardest job in the world to get fired from, but punching a co-worker (particularly a subordinate) would be top of that list. If Clarkson is that much of an ass off set, he deserves to be *****-canned. You don't treat other people like that, no matter who you are.

scottmandue 03-25-2015 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 8546216)
Let's face it. TG is stale. For the last few seasons, it was getting painfully obvious that the boys were just going through the motions. Their jokes & hi jinks were all getting stale & it was time to kill the show. Sure they could have - and probably would have - milked the cash cow for years to come but it was over.

Ian

This times ten thousand, every great show has a shelf live. TG has come to an end of it's run, get over it boyz.

herr_oberst 03-25-2015 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christien (Post 8546329)
You don't treat other people like that, no matter who you are.

Sadly, we live in the world where the punchee is getting death threats.

Clarkson producer Oisin Tymon has faced online death threats and says he's terrified he could lose his job - Daily Record

Maybe the Beeb should have a show with Clarkson and Oisin as the stars.

stomachmonkey 03-25-2015 06:50 AM

From Z-Mans link.

Sounds like it was deserved.

The right move, I don't agree with rewarding Clarkson for being a ****.

"The summary of the results of a probe into the altercation that led the BBC to part ways with Clarkson said: "It was not disputed by Jeremy Clarkson or any witness that Oisin Tymon was the victim of an unprovoked physical and verbal attack. It is also clear...that Oisin Tymon is an import ant creative member of the Top Gear team who is well-valued and respected. He has suffered significant personal distress as a result of this incident, through no fault of his own."

It said that "the physical attack lasted around 30 seconds and was halted by the intervention of a witness," while "the verbal abuse was directed at Oisin Tymon on more than one occasion – both during the attack and subsequently inside [a] hotel – and contained the strongest expletives and threats to sack him."

KNS 03-25-2015 06:59 AM

I hate to see Top Gear go but it has lost some of it's edge and originality the last few years. Perhaps it's better to go this way than increasingly dull and rewarmed skits over and over with declining ratings. If it continued would they have the same following five years from now? A little longer than that and we'd be watching a few seniors (or pensioners...) race around the track. Who would their audience be?

Adrian Thompson 03-25-2015 07:00 AM

How can anyone defend him for hitting a guy? Assuming it was true, and it looks like it, he should have been gone the same day. Not allowing his contract to expire, but marched off the premises as would have happened to anyone else in the BBC or any other company for physical violence. Despite (because of) his controversial image, the BBC desperately wanted to keep him. He is the cornerstone to the biggest grossing nonfiction show on the planet and brings in revenue completely beyond the shows cost.

I love TG, I love his non PC ways, but sorry, if he punched someone he has to go. There is no way Top Gear will survive without him. James and Hammond have said they don't want to do the show without him. the BBC may try to replace him or the whole cast, but the show will soon fold. I'm sure he'll take his talents elsewhere and millions will still pirate his new show, but the BBC had to cut him.

Aggie93 03-25-2015 07:01 AM

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wdfifteen 03-25-2015 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KNS (Post 8546359)
If it continued would they have the same following five years from now? A little longer than that and we'd be watching a few seniors (or pensioners...) race around the track. Who would their audience be?

Good point. Top Gear was aimed at a generation raised on cars. Looking to the interests of the next generation of middle aged men, perhaps someone will do a show like Top Gear based on mobile communication devices.

KNS 03-25-2015 07:06 AM

The link says Clarkson could host a show in the US. Could you see that - he doesn't seem too fond of "fat" Americans. Any show in the US wouldn't allow him to speak the truth (how such and such car truly sucks and is miserable to drive). I can't see him pitching fuel system treatments or Carnuba wax either.

gtc 03-25-2015 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 8546216)
Let's face it. TG is stale. For the last few seasons, it was getting painfully obvious that the boys were just going through the motions. Their jokes & hi jinks were all getting stale & it was time to kill the show. Sure they could have - and probably would have - milked the cash cow for years to come but it was over.

Ian

This is a good point, and I'd say the show has been stale for a lot longer than that.
Hopefully they can find some decent new hosts. Chris Harris would be a good one... though he already seems to have a good thing going.

Z-man 03-25-2015 07:41 AM

If Top Gear-UK replace Clarkson, Hammond, and May with another trio, it would be like watching Top Gear-US. I think I'll pass.

I do not condone violence - and Clarkson was wrong at physically attacking the producer. And he should have considered the ramifications. However, as far as we know, this was the first time he physically attacked someone. All of the other incidents were when he managed to piss off large groups of people with his comments.

So 90% of the reason Clarkson was canned was for his derogatory comments - the liberal expression of his journalistic opinion, so to speak. Kinda like what Howard Stern does on his radio show. It seems to me that poking fun of people was not just a Clarkson thing - it was an integral element of Top Gear. How many times did the Stig portray stereotypical behavior in his skits? Once, he was supposed to be the Japanese cousin of Stig - and when he came out of his trailer, he karate chopped his way through a group of people. Tell me that's not racist!

Then there was the Florida to New Orleans trip where they decorated their cars with controversial slogans while travelling through Alabama (stuff like Hillary For President and Man Love Rules). Whether it was Clarkson's idea or not -- the producers ran with it and aired tons and tons of similarly controversial segments. If Clarkson said something inappropriate, the producers had every opportunity to censor it - but they time after time to chose to roll with it.

The show thrived on it's irrelevant attitude towards just about every people group. And Clarkson was at the heart of it. I guess they created their own demise...

-Z

wayner 03-25-2015 07:55 AM

What are the odds that instead of jumping the shark, this might actually be an engineered sensationalized ending to a show that was wall about sensationalism? ;)

Does Jeremy really hate Porsches?
Does the BBC really hate Jeremy?

Is this a promotional stunt for their next move after Top gear?

Enquiring minds want to know...

stomachmonkey 03-25-2015 08:13 AM

Quote:

If Top Gear-UK replace Clarkson, Hammond, and May with another trio, it would be like watching Top Gear-US. I think I'll pass.<br>
<br>
I do not condone violence - and Clarkson was wrong at physically attacking the producer. And he should have considered the ramifications. However, as far as we know, this was the first time he physically attacked someone. All of the other incidents were when he managed to piss off large groups of people with his comments. <br>
<br>
So 90% of the reason Clarkson was canned was for his derogatory comments - the liberal expression of his journalistic opinion, so to speak. Kinda like what Howard Stern does on his radio show. It seems to me that poking fun of people was not just a Clarkson thing - it was an integral element of Top Gear. How many times did the Stig portray stereotypical behavior in his skits? Once, he was supposed to be the Japanese cousin of Stig - and when he came out of his trailer, he karate chopped his way through a group of people. Tell me that's not racist! <br>
<br>
Then there was the Florida to New Orleans trip where they decorated their cars with controversial slogans while travelling through Alabama (stuff like Hillary For President and Man Love Rules). Whether it was Clarkson's idea or not -- the producers ran with it and aired tons and tons of similarly controversial segments. If Clarkson said something inappropriate, the producers had every opportunity to censor it - but they time after time to chose to roll with it. <br>
<br>
The show thrived on it's irrelevant attitude towards just about every people group. And Clarkson was at the heart of it. I guess they created their own demise... <br>
<br>
-Z
He's gone not because of the behavior on camera which yes the producers can control through editing.

It's because of the behavior that they, and apparently clarckson as well, can't control.

Nordwest 03-25-2015 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8546378)
Good point. Top Gear was aimed at a generation raised on cars. Looking to the interests of the next generation of middle aged men, perhaps someone will do a show like Top Gear based on mobile communication devices.

This may be true but my 16 year old daughter loves T/G. She and a few of her friends watch it religiously.

Dave

Steve Carlton 03-25-2015 08:25 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1427300743.jpg

BE911SC 03-25-2015 08:27 AM

The BBC tolerates a pedophile for decades but when some producer gets a poke in the chops all hell breaks loose.

BE911SC 03-25-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordwest (Post 8546517)
This may be true but my 16 year old daughter loves T/G. She and a few of her friends watch it religiously.

Dave

My 16-YO daughter loves UK TG as well. Not the cars so much but the intellect and humor. "Dad, let's watch Top Gear!" My 15-YO son loves the humor and intellect too but loves the cars more. We saw an Aventador down in California, and another in Zurich and he just about pissed himself. Also a LaFerrari in Munich last summer. The driver saw my son and when the light changed he held back, must have selected Sport Mode (or whatever) and just exploded down the street in a cacophony of incredible sound.


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