Boss takes the shiny object for himself.

[Steve Carlton]

Weak SauCy boss.

[SeanPizzle]

Is Saucy on a comp plan that is mostly salary or is it most leveraged against commissions? That will determine how much your boss values you.

[DanielDudley]

Go rent BIRDMAN. Watch it.

You make lots of money, but obviously people don't appreciate your god like stature...

How did he get to be your boss again ? Maybe you should do that, and become your own boss, so that you can dispense the shiny bits. I run my own business, and I hired a lot of guys for more money than they had ever made in their lives. Helped many to get their own homes, and it is amazing how many of them constantly worked to undermine me.

All chiefs, no Indians.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by targa911S

Is Saucey hitting his numbers every month? If so ....complain. If not get yer own iPhone6 and write it off every year. You can only complain if your the lead dog and get away with it. Get your own phone and stick it up the bosses ars.

Long and short, yes.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Saucy, here is another perspective. Why did you use a 6 year old phone for the last 13 months?
Invest in the tools of your career, if you want to be good at it.
When they gave you that junk, you should have gone out and bought your own phone.
You would have also politely declined the iPhone5 and told them I already purchased a real phone out of pocket.

I used my personal.

[Robert Adams]

If you stay, just keep your eye on your goal, don’t sweat the small stuff, (cell phones are little stuff in the big picture) it’s all just noise to bring you down. If you’re making the money you say, it’s time to invest in yourself, because your boss isn’t ever going to. Odd as it is, ignorant SOB business owners generally have no management skills at all and the next chapter in the sequence of events will be you’re making too much money! Get an exit plan going ASAP because you will need it sooner than you think. Sounds to me like Saucy might want to consider starting his own business, and soon from the sounds of it.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by SeanPizzle

Is Saucy on a comp plan that is mostly salary or is it most leveraged against commissions? That will determine how much your boss values you.

Another good point...this year, my commission will outweigh my salary.

The strange, I see the financials, and at this point he can't afford to pay anyone more. (no excuse, just ugly fact)

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by Robert Adams

If you stay, just keep your eye on your goal, don’t sweat the small stuff, (cell phones are little stuff in the big picture) it’s all just noise to bring you down. If you’re making the money you say, it’s time to invest in yourself, because your boss isn’t ever going to. Odd as it is, ignorant SOB business owners generally have no management skills at all and the next chapter in the sequence of events will be you’re making too much money! Get an exit plan going ASAP because you will need it sooner than you think. Sounds to me like Saucy might want to consider starting his own business, and soon from the sounds of it.

I am already seeing this coming, theres resentment when its time to hand over the commission check every month. Last 4 months I swear he purposefully screwed it up and made me wait until next pay cycle to fix it. (could also be cash flow issue but didn't seem that way)

The best part aboutthis job is the experience I'm getting on how not to treat people, how not to manage a business, and how not to bury yourself in debt. I regularly think of ideas on how to start my own business as I aspire to it but I've yet to come up with something worthy of attack.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by mreid

BYOD

Who does the coach work for? The boss or the company? This is key as that is who the coach will report their findings and insights to.

The boss at first, but his direction has changed as he sees that the boss had misled him and the company is in bad shape.

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by 911SauCy

The boss at first, but his direction has changed as he sees that the boss had misled him and the company is in bad shape.

It sounds like the "impartial" coach is trying to gloss things over with the boss so he keeps making a paycheck from this dying company. A business coach should stay the course on what is proper to rescue the financials, not coddle the boss to keep collecting a retainer.

[techweenie]

I contracted for a major publishing company (with the initials LFP)... and the head of sales was on a commission that afforded her a rising income that surpassed that of the president of the company. So they cut her commission percentage. And she soon surpassed the president's income again, so they cut her commission percentage (now below 2%). Management was blind to the fact they were getting 98% of the revenue she produced ($20 million) and just focused on the fact that a woman was making more than the president of the company. So she quit. Her replacement could not continue to bring in $20 million a year, but since he was pals with the president of the company and willing to take 1% commission, they were happy.

Good top management people are rare, unfortunately.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

It sounds like the "impartial" coach is trying to gloss things over with the boss so he keeps making a paycheck from this dying company. A business coach should stay the course on what is proper to rescue the financials, not coddle the boss to keep collecting a retainer.

I should have been more clear, as the business coach is taking the tough road. Our last meeting was about a focused and direct plan, which if it fails the business would fail. He made it clear that if it fails, our next meeting is going to be about divesting strategy.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by techweenie

I contracted for a major publishing company (with the initials LFP)... and the head of sales was on a commission that afforded her a rising income that surpassed that of the president of the company. So they cut her commission percentage. And she soon surpassed the president's income again, so they cut her commission percentage (now below 2%). Management was blind to the fact they were getting 98% of the revenue she produced ($20 million) and just focused on the fact that a woman was making more than the president of the company. So she quit. Her replacement could not continue to bring in $20 million a year, but since he was pals with the president of the company and willing to take 1% commission, they were happy.

Good top management people are rare, unfortunately.

That's very ugly but not surprising.

So, this perhaps sounds conceited, but I am confident I would be a great leader. I am very close to many great leaders as well as associated with many bad ones. In time, its been an evolutionary discovery about myself. I've come to see how I treat people, my expectations of them, and how others react/interact with me are congruent to great those of many great leaders.

The bad leaders help me more than the good.

[Macroni]

I am blessed to be the CEO of a private organization that employees 350.

My perspective.....

It sounds like the business is under performing.....I would focus there. Does the company have a sound long term value proposition? Can the business coaches bring the required discipline to the organization? Is it worth your time to stick around to find out?

Technology: It is tough to keep up with all the changes. We had to implement policies to guide the handling of upgrades. Our rule of thumb is no upgrades on company phones unless service plan upgrade is due. Type of phone is determined by job responsibilities. The short life of most hardware allows for frequent review of internal guidelines of work stations.

Other issues sorry if I missed them.....
How long have you been employed by this organization?
Where you ever able to communicate effectively with the boss?

Just so I am clear with compensation: top 15% of earners would be an extremely well compensated position.... are we talking mid to high 6 figures or 7 figures?

Statement: Normally when a sales professional states Commission greater than base we are talking to a very happy employee....

[Jay Auskin]

Accidents happen. Drop the iPhone in the toilet. Let it sit for a while. See how the company handles this very simple task of replacing a phone.

Cell phones are like staplers these days. If they can't procure a new one quickly, why would you want to deal with all the other things they will handle poorly? Things which will actually be of importance to you.

Oh...make sure the toilet is clean since you'll be fishing it out of there.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by Jay Auskin

Accidents happen. Drop the iPhone in the toilet. Let it sit for a while. See how the company handles this very simple task of replacing a phone.

Cell phones are like staplers these days. If they can't procure a new one quickly, why would you want to deal with all the other things they will handle poorly? Things which will actually be of importance to you.

Oh...make sure the toilet is clean since you'll be fishing it out of there.

Simple, as a sales guy you sign for the value of company property given...it would cost me the $350 replacement value i signed for...

[Steve Carlton]

Accidents happen. Drop the iPhone in the toilet. Let it sit for a while. See how the company handles this very simple task of replacing a phone.



Cell phones are like staplers these days. If they can't procure a new one quickly, why would you want to deal with all the other things they will handle poorly? Things which will actually be of importance to you.



Oh...make sure the toilet is clean since you'll be fishing it out of there.

Seems like a lot of trouble to get SauCy Boss a new iPhone 6 Plus.

My brother actually dropped his iPhone in the toilet after dropping anchor. Fortunately, there was a substantial island of toilet paper in there for a relatively safe landing...

[rusnak]

Time to start SauCy Sales, Inc.?

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by Macroni

I am blessed to be the CEO of a private organization that employees 350.

My perspective.....

It sounds like the business is under performing.....I would focus there. Does the company have a sound long term value proposition? Can the business coaches bring the required discipline to the organization? Is it worth your time to stick around to find out?

Technology: It is tough to keep up with all the changes. We had to implement policies to guide the handling of upgrades. Our rule of thumb is no upgrades on company phones unless service plan upgrade is due. Type of phone is determined by job responsibilities. The short life of most hardware allows for frequent review of internal guidelines of work stations.

Other issues sorry if I missed them.....
How long have you been employed by this organization?
Where you ever able to communicate effectively with the boss?

Just so I am clear with compensation: top 15% of earners would be an extremely well compensated position.... are we talking mid to high 6 figures or 7 figures?

Statement: Normally when a sales professional states Commission greater than base we are talking to a very happy employee....

That is an awesome place to be.

(These of course are things I learned in time) The business is in crippling debt because the decision to try and float it on credit when it should have been closed down about 7 years ago. I'm focusing...I grew entire org 11% last year, but more importantly, the recurring revenue portion, I grew that 39%. This is all in the face of adversity...no sales material, no value prop, no inventory/money to buy it, no training (ok fine, he told me "watch how I do it" (which was failing))

Fully understand the tech rat race piece, I sell leading edge telecom tech.

Been there since 12/13. I communicate clearly and directly, but effectively would require him listening and acting. That said, it's sometimes effective, he's a slective listener, especially in tough decisions/conversations he avoid confrontation like nobody I've ever met.

(Example: (On our way to Starbucks) 5 mo. in he asked me how I thought everything was going, and I expressed my concern for having a new baby in relation to the cash flow issue. The man literally stepped out of my car as we were sitting at a stop light and walked the next 2 blocks to *bux. When we reconned in *bux he swiftly redirected conversation)

By def that I know over $75k annual and above is that percentage, im between there and 6-figs...so I'm the poorest of that statistic.

You're statement is correct.

[Macroni]

Sorry; your boss must be under tremendous pressure to respond so poorly. No excuses for bad behavior.

My feedback to you concerning the *Bux situation; I would maintain clear boundaries between your professional concerns and your private life....

I would also communicate with him predominately through email as it will both allow him time to consider what you are informing as well as become helpful documentation for follow up. Many time I do it under the title of.... Just to confirm our conversation

Telecom: You are in a great field with tremendous opportunities......

I would prepare my resume especially given
One: tech opportunities.
Two: your sales track record
Three: poor upper management of current employment

I have a great job. It is stressful but I am compensated for the pressure. Some people are not cut out for leadership roles due to their inability to tolerate the pressure and keep a clear head at the same time. I must admit the pressure of being up against your credit line is a tough one..... again no excuse for bad behavior or poor performance......