Bruce Jenner Interview

[black73]

Originally Posted by Christien

Are you suggesting transgender is a mental illness?

Originally Posted by fintstone

Pretty much. A man who thinks they are a woman trapped in a man's body is little different than a man who thinks they are a dog and trapped in a man's body and barks at the moon and licks their balls. One is a protected species to be protected, admired and sympathized with and the other is considered bat**** crazy.

Then there are some people that consider those that think like fintstone to be bat**** crazy.....

[Nostril Cheese]

Originally Posted by rusnak

I don't see anyone here planning to dress like a woman and chopping their pecker off. Why? Because its just weird that's why.

There are LGBT people on this board. I speak out because I have this crazy idea that all people are equal.

Your comment is based in fear (big surprise). You are threatened by LGBT people. People who are truly confident in their own sexuality arent bothered by "weird".

By the way, genital surgery plays less of a role than you think it does.

[M.D. Holloway]

I second nostril cheese - I have met a bunch of folks on this board. Many are exactly as you would expect while there are a few that have alternative appetites. Perhaps I give off some freak vibe but a few have confided in me with their life style choices and proclivities and they know I would never spill the beans.

So, what goes through on in a mans (or women's) head is their world according to their personal God or not. As reflected before, as long as the don't hurt me or others I do not find their lifestyle at all offensive.
I have yet to meet a man or women superior enough to pass complete judgement on anthers life style if that life style doesn't involve harm.

Plus who has time to invest in another's issues when so many of us barely have time to address our own?

Straighten up your house before you decide what color I should paint mine.

[aigel]

Teen pregnancy rates are down. And teen sexual activity is flat. Teens have always been horny. Doesn't take TV to get them there. As a matter of fact, the less open the society is about teen sex the higher the pregnancy rate. Compare the U.S. to Scandinavia for example!

I was sexually active in High School - you guys weren't?
Safely. I don't see why it is a big deal. I'm glad I didn't miss out!!!

G

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese

There are LGBT people on this board. I speak out because I have this crazy idea that all people are equal.

Your comment is based in fear (big surprise). You are threatened by LGBT people. People who are truly confident in their own sexuality arent bothered by "weird".

By the way, genital surgery plays less of a role than you think it does.

There may be axe killers, child molesters and islamic terrorists on this board...but that doesn't make them any less weird to most of us. Transexuals are pretty unusual where most of us live.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese

There are LGBT people on this board. I speak out because I have this crazy idea that all people are equal.

Your comment is based in fear (big surprise). You are threatened by LGBT people. People who are truly confident in their own sexuality arent bothered by "weird".

By the way, genital surgery plays less of a role than you think it does.

Are they all in Portland? Besides, you throw in the whole LGBT card, while I was talking about 1 freak show. I have a gay employee and as a matter of fact the gay bar has pretty good drinks. But even for them, Jenner is sort of out there. So cry me a frikken river.

[72doug2,2S]

I hope Bruce finds help while he remains in this condition. Since he's gone public, perhaps his issues, at some point, will bring mental wellness into the national spotlight. I try to look at the bright side of things.

[aschen]

Bruce Jenner is really into remote control heli flying so he has s ok by me

[pksystems]

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by black73

Then there are some people that consider those that think like fintstone to be bat**** crazy.....

i don't.

his quote in your post was right on.

[Cajundaddy]

Originally Posted by ForBell

"Looks like sexual activity is flat. This is Canada, but should be similar:"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You just might want to look at the facts for the USA.
.
CDC - Sexual Behaviors - Adolescent and School Health

Many young people engage in sexual risk behaviors that can result in unintended health outcomes. For example, among U.S. high school students surveyed in 2013:

- 47% had had sexual intercourse.
- 34% had had sexual intercourse during the previous 3 months, and, of these 41% did not use a condom the last time they had sex.
- 15% had had sex with four or more people during their life.
- Only 22% of sexually experienced students have ever been tested for HIV.

Sexual risk behaviors place adolescents at risk for HIV infection, other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), and unintended pregnancy:

- Nearly 10,000 young people (aged 13-24) were diagnosed with HIV infection in the United States in 2013.
- Young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24) accounted for an estimated 19% (8,800) of all new HIV infections in the United States, and 72% of new HIV infections among youth in 2010.
- Nearly half of the 20 million new STDs each year were among young people, between the ages of 15 to 24.
- Approximately 273,000 babies were born to teen girls aged 15–19 years in 2013.

This is only one piece of the story. Here is the another piece:

"Since 1991, there have been declines among high schoolers in the percentages of students who ever had sexual intercourse, who had sexual intercourse for the first time before age 13, who have had sexual intercourse with four or more persons in their lifetime, and who report being currently sexually active.15

In 2008 (the most recent year for which national data are available), the pregnancy rate for U.S. teens aged 15-19 reached 67.8 pregnancies per 1000 young women: its lowest point in more than 30 years, down 42 percent from its 1990 peak of 116.9 per thousand.16

The birth rate for U.S. teens aged 15-19 reached its lowest point in 2009 (39.1 births per thousand young women) in nearly seven decades; the 2009 rate was 37 percent below its most recent peak in 1991 (61.8 per 1000).1"

http://advocatesforyouth.org/storage/advfy/documents/adolescent-sexual-behavior-demographics.pdf

As for Bruce Jenner, I can offer compassion but not understanding. This is so foreign to me, how could I really understand his situation. I don't. There is plenty I don't understand about the whole gender and sexuality spectrum so I just believe in live and let live.

I followed one of the first public transgender/gender reassignment persons back in the 70s. Walter/Wendy Carlos. She was a celebrated classical musician who first applied the Moog synthesizer to Bach, Brahms, and Mozart and her music was used in several film soundtracks at the time. She is still active in music and an avid solar eclipse chaser. That was 40 years ago and my understanding is no better now than it was then. I wonder what she would say to Jenner now after living as a woman since the 70s.

[cairns]

I have to agree with Rusnak. Have a friend who's gay- he thinks the idea of cutting off your pecker is just weird.

I figure Bruce was surrounded with so much Kardashian estrogen he finally flipped.

"You think that's weird? Watch THIS!"

[ckelly78z]

I actually feel sorry for Bruce Jenner, he was the epitome of a healthy man's man when he won the Olympic Decathlon, and you would think he has the world by the Azz. I truly believe he wasn't as macho and confident as what the media at the time portrayed him to be, and I think the whole Kardashian clan ruined him for good by belittling, and talking down to him to the point he had no identity remaining. Bruce's biggest problem is being concerned with what the public says , and the media reports......he should just live his own life and not make this a National news item.

I have no problem with alternative lifestyle individuals as long as they don't push thier agendas on me, and just try to meld into society like normal human beings. I have friends who are a gay female couple who run thier own electrician contractor business. They are in high demand for thier honest work ethic and fast, proper results. The subject of thier sexual orientation has never come up, but they don't hide it either. I personally applaud them and enjoy talking to them.

[craigster59]

What is most puzzling to me is his decision to go about this at his age (64). but I guess as the saying goes, "It's never too late to have a happy childhood".

I work with a LOT of gay people in my business, one who has had surgery (male to female) and a few women who dress and act as men. No big deal for me working and socializing with them. Some are more "in your face" than others about their sexuality but all in all, they all seem very well adjusted. Different strokes as it were.