Shawshank revisited

[widgeon13]

In northern NY, sounds like an inside job to me. The place is definitely the pits.

Power tools???

NY gov.: 2 convicted murderers used power tools to escape - AOL.com

[widgeon13]

(CNN)Convicted killers Richard Matt and David Sweat pulled off the kind of prison break that would normally be fodder for movies -- except theirs might be even more astonishing.

Armed with a complex plot and power tools, the pair did what no one else has been able to do in the 170-year history of New York state's most populated prison -- escape from its maximum security walls.

Now, as authorities look for the men in three countries, many are left scratching their heads.

Here's what we know and don't know about their scheme:

The tools
What we know: Matt and Sweat, who lived in adjacent cells, apparently used power tools to cut through a concrete-and-steel wall at the Clinton Correctional Facility in Dannemora, New York, authorities said.

What we don't know: How in the world they got those power tools -- and how guards didn't hear them being used.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the prison, built in 1845, undergoes regular maintenance, so it's possible the tools came from workers who are often in the facility.

The company who employs the maintenance workers is cooperating with the investigation, New York State Police Maj. Charles Guess said.

The escape
What we know: After cutting through the steel walls of their cells, the two followed a catwalk "down an elaborate maze of pipes into tunnels and exited a series of tunnels at the manhole cover," the governor said.

What we don't know: How Matt and Sweat could have known the layout of the dark, complex labyrinth in the bowels of the prison well enough to make their way out.

The help
What we know: The investigation is so fresh that nothing has been publicly discounted -- including whether the men had help in their getaway.

What we don't know: Who that help may have come from. Did a maintenance worker leave behind power tools? If so, was it intentional or accidental? Did a guard help them out? Or did someone from the outside actually carve their way in to reach the back ends of their cells?

The freedom
What we know: The two men left only one message during their escape: A yellow note on a pipe that read, "Have a nice day!"

For Matt, this isn't his first time escaping prison. In 1986, he escaped from an Erie County jail, the New York governor's office said.

Upon his capture, Matt was sent to a maximum security prison in Elmira, New York in 1986 on charges of escape and forgery. He was released from the Elmira Correctional Facility in May 1990.

What we don't know: What the two men will do next.

"Because they're stone-cold killers, you would expect them to stop at nothing to get out of the prison and to maintain their freedom once they are out," CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes said.

"That means they could have invaded one of the local homes in that small down, killed the people, stole their car, and driven halfway across the United States by the time (authorities) even know they were gone. So the police are going to have to check for the well being of every resident in the town."

CNN's David Shortell and Monte Plott contributed to this report.

[URY914]

Didn't I see a thread on PPOT a little while back that asked, "How to break out of prison."

[widgeon13]

No one had ever broken out of this place. It's a hell hole built in 1865 I believe.

[GH85Carrera]

It is only logical they had some major inside help, and some major incompetence acting together. With a little luck they will figure out how they managed to pull it off. With a little more luck they will find those tow and kill them and no cops hurt. Those two are a text book case FOR the death penalty.

[widgeon13]

The authorities haven't a clue where these guys are.

Hope all New Yorker remember this when they think of Cuomo's Safe Act gun law!

[wayner]

Is that why they tazed that woman?

[widgeon13]

A friends yard, near Plattsburgh, NY😁

[flatbutt]

Inconceivable to consider that they used power tools without being heard. There is more to come on this.

[widgeon13]

These guys are gone.

[island911]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

It is only logical they had some major inside help, ...

Why inside help, and not outside help? Tools could have come from a drone delivery.

[T77911S]

maybe someone broke "IN".

[sand_man]

"...vanished like a fart in the wind..."

[rusnak]

A battery operated angle grinder would have lost power long before those cuts were made, and they were much bigger than needed to be. And those look way too clean to be made with a torch. So they used AC power?!?

[GH85Carrera]

Yea, angle grinders on a huge pipe or a steel wall would be LOUD! They had lots of time and no one noticed?

[widgeon13]

New York prison escape: Clues suggest killers on foot - CNN.com

[widgeon13]

Still on the loose. They (LEO) don't seem to have any solid clues.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/06/11/official-admits-no-information-on-escaped-killers/21194378/

[widgeon13]

Now they are saying a cabbie spotted them in Philly and had them as a fare to the bus station.

[URY914]

Originally Posted by widgeon13

Now they are saying a cabbie spotted them in Philly and had them as a fare to the bus station.

I would think they would have split up by now. Staying together doesn't make sence to me. The cabbie is just looking to be interviewed on CNN.

[widgeon13]

At least they arrested the beeeotch that assisted in the escape. Pleads not guilty but tells how she helped them, yeah she has half a brain.