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Are you a cook or a chef?

The Cook and the Chef: Musk's Secret Sauce - Wait But Why

In the 1960s, a creative performance researcher named George Land conducted a study of 1,600 five-year-olds and 98 percent of the children scored in the “highly creative” range. Dr. Land re-tested each subject during five year increments. When the same children were 10-years-old, only 30 percent scored in the highly creative range. This number dropped to 12 percent by age 15 and just 2 percent by age 25. As the children grew into adults they effectively had the creativity trained out of them. In the words of Dr. Land, “non-creative behavior is learned.”

This 1960's study doesn't speak well for our creativity as adults. I know that there are at least some efforts in the educational system to support creativity but ultimately it comes down to grades and wealth to get ahead so creativity often takes a back seat to rote memorization. But only 2% by age 25? :-(

No, I do not consider myself a chef. A free thinker maybe. The most creative thing that I've done so far is to design, build and get Transport Canada certified a basic flight simulator, but I didn't do my own software, just mechanicals. It went nowhere.

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The modern version of this is the research on the growth mindset vs. the fixed mindset that is beat into us over time.

Oh, to the point my wife is a chef, I'm a gearhead.
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I'm creative, but not in the kitchen.

Also, no one likes my ideas, but many a recent 'invention' I thought of years before..... like the combo Washer& Dryer, in one machine. My wife thought I was nuts....
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I read a science fiction book years ago that was based on the premise that we are born with all knowledge and we are socialized to block out 99% of it. The reason babies seem so stupid is they haven't learned how to organize, block out, and control everything they know. Idiot savants and those people who can tell you what happened on a specific date in history are "victims" of defective socialization.
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uberchef, does that mean you cook at home for random strangers from the internet?

WRT the original study, non-creative behavior is learned? Perhaps. Or perhaps the human brain changes in ways that he did not address. I know it is a fact that youngsters can learn foreign languages with far greater facility than adults. Maybe creativity degrades as you get older, as does the ability to learn new languages.

BTW, that link is about Elon Musk, and has a tiny bit of which is related to the subject of the OP, a bit misleading, if you ask me.
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BTW, that link is about Elon Musk, and has a tiny bit of which is related to the subject of the OP, a bit misleading, if you ask me.
The ENTIRE article is about the subject. This article was the last in a brilliant series about Elon Musk, mostly a summary of what makes people like Musk different from most of the rest of us. Musk is referred to once in a while but most of the article is about creativity.

Nature supports both personality types with the majority being cooks and not chefs but human advances are mainly achieved by the few who are chefs so be grateful.

* It's easier to follow than lead.
* It's easier to copy than invent.
* You make more friends by being the same.
* There is less risk in following the status quo.
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Yes. Yes you are.
I'm still waiting for yourself or jyl to adopt a middle age man.
Secretary will handle all the details.

I can only throw basics(evoo cheese butter onions peppers mushrooms parsley basil) at supermarket food.
-Only a one trick pony here.-

Even if it's perfect, I will still manage to screw it up.
I do bake a mean pie however.
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I just microwaved some teriyaki chicken from trader joes. Do that make me a chef?
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A little of both....

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