Remember the guy Tony Stewart killed on the last year?
 

Just saw this today...

Report: Kevin Ward Jr. smoked marijuana within hours of final race | Autoweek

And? :confused:

That was widely publicized last year, you just never saw it. It's not news.

My bad...

News to me.

He probably had some bacon fat and orange juice in him as well, about the same relevance to how he died.

IIRC At the time there were tony stewart lynch mobs all over the place.

The fact that this guy was stoned means IMO he had no business being a race car driver or being in a race car or being on a race track and I have a hard time dismissing that as at least a partially contributing cause.

Bacon fat not withstanding. :)


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I hope I didn't come off sounding condescending - it wasn't meant that way. SmileWavy

So a man gets stoned and then puts on a BLACK racing suit and gets into a race AT NIGHT and stands in FRONT of a fast moving RACE car in a poorly lighted area and gets run over but it is is not his own fault but the fault of the driver he stood in front of.

Go it.

Watch the video. That pig Stewart tried to scare the kid and miscalculated. Sure, he shouldn't have been on the track but two cars in front of Stewart missed the kid. Stewart has been up to his old tricks since in the race car and hasn't learned a thing.

I'm not sure I agree that Stewart was at fault. I know the internet armchair judges are seldom wrong about anything, but he was cleared by people that investigated the incident firsthand. The suit will go forward, and he will pay some money, because that's how our ****ty legal system works.

The kid was stupid for getting out of the car. No reason to, and many reasons not to.

JR

If you read the report in the first post is says two independent investigators both came to the same conclusion. Steward had just one second from the time he saw him to impact. He did not swerve until after impact.

Yeah, I read it. But Stewart's hotheaded persona preceded this event, and has succeeded it. What occurred fits right in line with Stewart "teaching the punk a lesson." I've seen nothing since that shows Stewart has learned anything. There have in fact been a few incidences since of Stewart in on track and pit road rages where sheet metal got tore up by his car. I believe Stewart rammed a car on pit road in a fit of rage after a race just a month or two after the death.

Not really... Isn't his 15 minutes up?

You sure that wasn't when Keselowski hit him and knocked him into the other car?

That my indicate Stewart is an a-hole but it's a far stretch from homicide.

Just like driving down the highway, there is a "Road-Gator" in the road, 1st two cars miss it because the 1st sees it it time, the 2nd follows the lead figuring something is in the road, the 3rd car nails it because he didn't know why the other two swerved at the last minute.

That's correct. BK slammed Stewart on pit road and Stewart retaliated by backing up and slamming into BK's car. This occurred just two months after the fatal accident.

NASCAR fines Brad Keselowski and Tony Stewart for postrace conduct

Video shows Stewart going up towards the kid where others maneuvered away. Theory is he wanted to spray mud on the kid to "teach him a lesson."

No it does not!

Read the report on the first post. Two different professionals each concluded Stewart did not swerve.

I have eyes. Stewart wasn't an innocent. And is still a major d-bag hothead.

He may be a hot head but all you have seen is a low res video from the internet. Two independent PROFESSIONALS studied the original video frame by frame and "enhanced" it with professional level computer filters.

Can you admit it is POSSIBLE they know more than you do about it or do you just go on your gut feelings and always correct?

TS may well be the biggest a-hole ever in racing. That does not matter. A stoned moron wearing black stepped in front of a race car at night and paid the price for his stupidity.

Nice jump, btw. Just because he had marijuana in his system doesn't mean he was stoned at the time of the accident. That was never proven.

I blame it all on the reefer.....:)

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Sorry, physics do not match this.

The kid, ran down the track into Tony's path, Tony's car was not, and did not go any higher up the track than the car in front of Tony.

Secondly, Tony did not run Ward over, which is what would happen if Tony had stepped the back out to "spray mud on the kid." Instead, Tony's right side suspension compresses, and the WING FLEXES DOWNWARD ON WARDS SIDE!!!!

Ward - stupid unbalanced and not thinking clearly, JUMPED ONTO TONY'S CAR.
That, is what physics support.

Sorry.

^^^^This opinion is why the family opened up a civil suit on Friday and likely while that link is back in the news.

EMJ has some kind of axe to grind with Tony Stewart, not sure why....anyhow, I shot this video last fall as to what it looks like in a Sprint Car from the driver's seat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECIXdDinp3I

Yeah, this is beating a dead horse. EMJ isn't going to change his opinion, nor is he going to argue the points with anything approaching an open mind, or correct reasoning.

JR

I've been to Tony's house, had cook outs with him, and he is not anywhere like some think he is. Tony is intense on the track, but very laid back at home. I hope some of you "witneses, experts" rely on facts, not what the media want's you to believe. A good "reffer" gives the kid all kinds of machismo before the race, then it continues after he's hit. Sad day for the kid, but a lawsiut won't bring him back.

THC in your system doesn't mean it was smoked with in the hour....could have been weeks ago.

As liberal as Nevada is, if you test positive for pot after an accident, automatic DUI.....no lower limit is tolerated.

The report came back with 2 hours being probable, 5 hours outside. I guess the devil is in the details...

I don't know of any serious racing series that tolerates any drug use.

JR

Hands up, don't shoot...

Really? I thought you were minding the details. Meth and heroine are the drugs of choice for NASCAR. See Mayfield, Almendinger, that Truck Series driver that was found in his car by the cops with a needle in his arm shooting up heroine a few years ago, and a multitude of meth related pit guys who've been busted over the years.

As for Stewart, he's a phony, a hothead, and I don't like him. My choice, my opinion. Why do I have to justify with reasoning to you? As for the accident, he was very callous in thinking he could race "business as usual" the day after the death, and his actions since show he hasn't learned to control himself. In fact, I believe he's had as many rage accidents on track as he had on average before the death. So yes, I get to choose which athletes I root for.

[QUOTE=EMJ;8749155Meth and heroine are the drugs of choice for NASCAR. [/QUOTE]

Danica?

Who said drugs are OK in NASCAR? Not me. I imagine the drivers that flunk drug tests there also get put on the sidelines. So, not sure what you point is, since it doesn't seem like you know how to make one.

I don't give two ****s who you root for. I'm not a Stewart fan, nor do I ever watch NASCAR, or sprint car racing. I have no dog in this fight. I was just pointing out that you don't know how to promote a serious argument. You make all sorts of statements you can't back up with any facts, so why bother to state them? Your version of events is completely at odds with professionals that studied the facts in far more detail than you ever will, yet you're right because Stewart is a "major d-bag hothead".

Wow, I wonder how that escaped everyone's attention?

JR

Apparently, you can't read either and have mistaken me for someone who gives a damn what you think. You stated that drugs aren't tolerated in any form of racing so I pointed out how prevalent it is in Nascar. For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, why are you ass deep in this thread throwing darts at me like a love sick Tony fanboy? Grow a set and let people have their opinions. Was that point clear enough for you? Or are you going to continue to blather?

I'm curious of your facts to back this up. Almendinger got pulled from the race with like 4 hours to go and they had to find a sub. Crew guys use but seem to get pulled all the time for "Road to Recovery". Here's one that just finished the program, do you have more data?

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it is very likely tough guy tony wanted to give a dirt shower to the young man and made a terrible mistake.

this 2...stewart is a fat azz, short, wanna be tough guy, he is a well known bully.

I would bet big dollars that he was not stoned while racing.