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Cop's AMAZING patience with an idiot
Wow. I wanted to punch the guy in the face just watching the video.
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Sounded drunk too. Dumbass. Lucky the cop didn't knock up him upside the head with that baton.
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I was thinking that he sounded drunk too.
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That officer deserves a commendation for remaining calm, and professional during that stop. If I saw him, I'd give him a thank you, and a handshake, or buy him a beer.
I believe the perp did everything he could think of to make the officer go ape scheiss on him, but I think that officer was smart enough to know what the perp was trying to do from jump street. Driver refused everything asked of him; wouldn't roll his window down, or show his DL. He's consistently demanding the officer's badge number, demanding to see his supervisor, demanding to see a warrant for arrest before he'll hand over his license, or open his window... I HOPE the perp was drunk during that stop. At least that would be an excuse for exercising so much stupidity during a traffic stop.
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All of this "Constitutional Patriot" and other nutbag right wing crap has created a new class of idiots out there. Don't get me wrong; there is nothing wrong with knowing the law and asserting your rights but you had better have your statutes and laws down pat. This guy was deeply confused.
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What a thankless job. Seems like officers must deal with this a lot given his patience and censure.
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There are some vids of amazing officer restraint on the net. Kudos to them.
Definitely not an easy job at times.
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"CBS reports that Richardson plans to represent himself in court." Should be entertaining.
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The side of the road is not the best venue for protesting what you perceive to be an injustice.
Busting the guy's window just because he was speeding? Seems a bit barbaric to me. Should have gotten a supervisor out there and let him make the call.
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Unless there were extenuating local circumstance, a little more time on the clock would have solved this more peacefully. Let the due process sort it out.
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Watch the video. The guy is a tool bag and resisting arrest.
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Sure, you can say the cop could have waited him out, or waited for a supervisor, but then what? What actions by the driver would make the officer think compliance would come, willingly, sometime later? Should he have waited? Guess we'll find out in court.
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This came up on the side-bar when I watched the above video in Youtube. It's pretty much the flip side (no pun intended). Guy flips off cop just to be provocative and gets pepper sprayed/arrested. Found an article that said the cop has since resigned. Sprayee has filed lawsuit.
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And he says but I will arrest you if you don't comply several times, and then he busts the window out and arrests him. Wasn't a real big surprise what was going to happen.
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Yeah it's not a surprise, but the officer did not state his demand to arrest said person. Actually told him he wasn't under arrest, then, breaks his widow... Imho Texas owes that guy a window...
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The d-bag had an invalid license and expired plates... that's why he was stalling.
From a link to an online news article found in the YouTube comments below the video: ____________________________ The exchange leading up to the window smash appears typical of encounters between law enforcement and so-called "sovereign citizens"—a small but growing movement of people who deny that they are subjects of state or federal government. "You are being detained." "For what reason?" "Because you were violating the speed limit." "Speed limit is not a crime in the state of Texas." "It is." "No it's not." That doesn't stand up to the Texas transportation code, which allows government to enforce speed limits. He also claims the 1979 U.S. Supreme Court case Brown v. Texas established that law enforcement was not allowed to demand a citizen's identification unless he was seen committing a felony. This also is inaccurate—the case established that officers needed probable cause to detain and ID a citizen. Speeding qualifies as probable cause. David Margulies, a spokesman for the Addison Police Department, said the officer was "absolutely" in the right so break the window. "[Richardson] did not comply with the lawful order from the police officer repeatedly and the officer is permitted to force him to comply." Richardson, who apparently posted the video to YouTube, could not be immediately reached for comment. He was arrested and charged with driving with an invalid license, having expired license plates and failing to present his driver's license upon demand. The officer issued a warning for the traffic violations. When Texas driver refuses to ID, police officer smashes window to remove him from the car - Houston Chronicle
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So what was the office supposed to do. Waste more of his day on this jerkoff? A supervisor would have done the same damn thing. The guy is a broken record spouting off the same dumbass line over and over again. Not likely his tune would have changed when anyone else asked for the same thing. If this dumbass would have just rolled his window down admitted he was speeding and not tried to make himself a YouTube star, the stop would have lasted 10 minutes, and may not have even resulted in a ticket.
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