Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Back in the saddle again
 
masraum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Central TX west of Houston
Posts: 56,102
Cop's AMAZING patience with an idiot

Wow. I wanted to punch the guy in the face just watching the video.


__________________
Steve
'08 Boxster RS60 Spyder #0099/1960
- never named a car before, but this is Charlotte.
'88 targa SOLD 2004 - gone but not forgotten
Old 09-06-2015, 11:39 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
Sounded drunk too. Dumbass. Lucky the cop didn't knock up him upside the head with that baton.
Old 09-06-2015, 12:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Back in the saddle again
 
masraum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Central TX west of Houston
Posts: 56,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by porsche4life View Post
Sounded drunk too. Dumbass. Lucky the cop didn't knock up him upside the head with that baton.
I was thinking that he sounded drunk too.
__________________
Steve
'08 Boxster RS60 Spyder #0099/1960
- never named a car before, but this is Charlotte.
'88 targa SOLD 2004 - gone but not forgotten
Old 09-06-2015, 01:02 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Fast Acting, Long Lasting
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Eastern Chatham co. NC.
Posts: 1,171
That officer deserves a commendation for remaining calm, and professional during that stop. If I saw him, I'd give him a thank you, and a handshake, or buy him a beer.

I believe the perp did everything he could think of to make the officer go ape scheiss on him, but I think that officer was smart enough to know what the perp was trying to do from jump street. Driver refused everything asked of him; wouldn't roll his window down, or show his DL. He's consistently demanding the officer's badge number, demanding to see his supervisor, demanding to see a warrant for arrest before he'll hand over his license, or open his window...

I HOPE the perp was drunk during that stop. At least that would be an excuse for exercising so much stupidity during a traffic stop.
__________________
Eighteen ways to burn fuel.
Old 09-06-2015, 01:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Banned
 
speeder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: los angeles, CA.
Posts: 41,257
All of this "Constitutional Patriot" and other nutbag right wing crap has created a new class of idiots out there. Don't get me wrong; there is nothing wrong with knowing the law and asserting your rights but you had better have your statutes and laws down pat. This guy was deeply confused.
Old 09-06-2015, 01:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Scott R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Aspen CO US
Posts: 16,054
Garage
What a thankless job. Seems like officers must deal with this a lot given his patience and censure.
__________________
2021 Model Y
2005 Cayenne Turbo
2012 Panamera 4S
1980 911 SC
1999 996 Cab
Old 09-06-2015, 01:59 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
You do not have permissi
 
john70t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: midwest
Posts: 39,908
There are some vids of amazing officer restraint on the net. Kudos to them.
Definitely not an easy job at times.
__________________
Meanwhile other things are still happening.
Old 09-06-2015, 03:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Student of the obvious
 
LeeH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 7,714
"CBS reports that Richardson plans to represent himself in court." Should be entertaining.
__________________
Lee
Old 09-06-2015, 03:18 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Parrothead member
 
VINMAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Monmouth county, NJ USA
Posts: 13,842
Quote:
Originally Posted by speeder View Post
All of this "Constitutional Patriot" and other nutbag right wing crap has created a new class of idiots out there. .
I have to disagree, Dennis. I think most "Right Wing nutbag" conservatives , like myself and 99% of the ones I know, would be siding with the cop on this one.( and all of the similar wannabe lawyer video douchebags.)


.
__________________
Vinny
Red '86 944, 05 Ford Super Duty Dually '02 Ram 3500 Diesel 4x4 Dually, '07Jeep Wrangler '62 Mercury Meteor '90 Harley 1200 XL
"Live your Life in such a way that the Westboro Baptist Church will want to picket your funeral."
Old 09-06-2015, 05:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Baz Baz is online now
G'day!
 
Baz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida
Posts: 45,687
Garage
The side of the road is not the best venue for protesting what you perceive to be an injustice.

Busting the guy's window just because he was speeding? Seems a bit barbaric to me.

Should have gotten a supervisor out there and let him make the call.
__________________
Old dog....new tricks.....
Old 09-06-2015, 05:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeH View Post
"CBS reports that Richardson plans to represent himself in court." Should be entertaining.
Oh god. I'd love to see that. Shame stupid isn't a crime....
Old 09-06-2015, 05:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
You do not have permissi
 
john70t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: midwest
Posts: 39,908
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz View Post
Busting the guy's window just because he was speeding? Seems a bit barbaric to me.
I didn't watch the video. But agree.

Unless there were extenuating local circumstance, a little more time on the clock would have solved this more peacefully.
Let the due process sort it out.
__________________
Meanwhile other things are still happening.
Old 09-06-2015, 06:08 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
Watch the video. The guy is a tool bag and resisting arrest.
Old 09-06-2015, 06:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Capistrano Beach, Ca.
Posts: 7,235
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz View Post
The side of the road is not the best venue for protesting what you perceive to be an injustice.

Busting the guy's window just because he was speeding? Seems a bit barbaric to me.

Should have gotten a supervisor out there and let him make the call.
Quote:
Originally Posted by john70t View Post
I didn't watch the video. But agree.

Unless there were extenuating local circumstance, a little more time on the clock would have solved this more peacefully.
Let the due process sort it out.
His window was not broken "just because he was speeding." He was pulled over (detained) for speeding. Once detained, the cop asked for his license and proof of insurance, which he has every legal right to do. From that point on, he refuses to comply to any legal request and continually mouths off. Eventually, the cop decides to make an arrest and in order to follow through, he had to break the window and pull the driver out. The window was broken because the driver escalated a routine detention into an arrest, by purposely ignoring the lawful directives of the officer.

Sure, you can say the cop could have waited him out, or waited for a supervisor, but then what? What actions by the driver would make the officer think compliance would come, willingly, sometime later? Should he have waited? Guess we'll find out in court.
__________________
L.J.
Recovering Porsche-holic
Gave up trying to stay clean
Stabilized on a Pelican I.V. drip

Last edited by ossiblue; 09-06-2015 at 07:59 PM..
Old 09-06-2015, 07:50 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Student of the obvious
 
LeeH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 7,714
This came up on the side-bar when I watched the above video in Youtube. It's pretty much the flip side (no pun intended). Guy flips off cop just to be provocative and gets pepper sprayed/arrested. Found an article that said the cop has since resigned. Sprayee has filed lawsuit.

__________________
Lee
Old 09-06-2015, 10:59 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
....
 
Arizona_928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 18,792
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz View Post

Busting the guy's window just because he was speeding? Seems a bit barbaric to me.

Should have gotten a supervisor out there and let him make the call.
^^
Other YouTube videos of the same argument/stance resort to a super coming out, and taking over of the stop...

Notice the video. Am I under arrest? No, you're being detained...
__________________
dolor et pavor

Copyright
Old 09-06-2015, 11:49 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
And he says but I will arrest you if you don't comply several times, and then he busts the window out and arrests him. Wasn't a real big surprise what was going to happen.
Old 09-06-2015, 11:52 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
....
 
Arizona_928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 18,792
Yeah it's not a surprise, but the officer did not state his demand to arrest said person. Actually told him he wasn't under arrest, then, breaks his widow... Imho Texas owes that guy a window...
__________________
dolor et pavor

Copyright
Old 09-06-2015, 11:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Run smooth, run fast
 
Heel n Toe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 13,447
The d-bag had an invalid license and expired plates... that's why he was stalling.

From a link to an online news article found in the YouTube comments below the video:
____________________________
The exchange leading up to the window smash appears typical of encounters between law enforcement and so-called "sovereign citizens"—a small but growing movement of people who deny that they are subjects of state or federal government.

"You are being detained."

"For what reason?"

"Because you were violating the speed limit."

"Speed limit is not a crime in the state of Texas."

"It is."

"No it's not."

That doesn't stand up to the Texas transportation code, which allows government to enforce speed limits. He also claims the 1979 U.S. Supreme Court case Brown v. Texas established that law enforcement was not allowed to demand a citizen's identification unless he was seen committing a felony. This also is inaccurate—the case established that officers needed probable cause to detain and ID a citizen. Speeding qualifies as probable cause.

David Margulies, a spokesman for the Addison Police Department, said the officer was "absolutely" in the right so break the window.

"[Richardson] did not comply with the lawful order from the police officer repeatedly and the officer is permitted to force him to comply."

Richardson, who apparently posted the video to YouTube, could not be immediately reached for comment.

He was arrested and charged with driving with an invalid license, having expired license plates and failing to present his driver's license upon demand. The officer issued a warning for the traffic violations.


When Texas driver refuses to ID, police officer smashes window to remove him from the car - Houston Chronicle
__________________
- John
"We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline."

Last edited by Heel n Toe; 09-07-2015 at 12:20 AM..
Old 09-07-2015, 12:14 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
So what was the office supposed to do. Waste more of his day on this jerkoff? A supervisor would have done the same damn thing. The guy is a broken record spouting off the same dumbass line over and over again. Not likely his tune would have changed when anyone else asked for the same thing. If this dumbass would have just rolled his window down admitted he was speeding and not tried to make himself a YouTube star, the stop would have lasted 10 minutes, and may not have even resulted in a ticket.

Old 09-07-2015, 12:21 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:42 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.