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Bob Kontak 12-22-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Coffey (Post 8926804)
For the CD, find an original 1980 (Barry Diament mastered) release. These are also plentiful, and are cut from the original Ludwig masters.

Can't find on EBAY However, that's only five minutes invested.

I see plenty of Japanese remastered offers on the Back in Black CD. Are these "decent" for securing a better quality?

I did see a Barry Diament CD for sale, I think it was a Yes album that specified unremastered. Assuming that means was from original source or very close to original source?

JR, I am hooking up with my pal, close to New Years, that has maybe a $6,000 stereo to do the Back in Black assessment you suggest. I am wondering if 59 years of wear render even the Bose speakers too high quality for my ears. I still have to pick up a difference.

javadog 12-22-2015 02:16 PM

My ears are 56, limited to about 12k HZ, with some occasional problems at lower frequencies but I can still hear enough of it that it impresses. Great speakers and enough power, along with decent room acoustics, are key.

JR

Eric Coffey 12-23-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 8928289)
Can't find on EBAY However, that's only five minutes invested.

I see plenty of Japanese remastered offers on the Back in Black CD. Are these "decent" for securing a better quality?

I did see a Barry Diament CD for sale, I think it was a Yes album that specified unremastered. Assuming that means was from original source or very close to original source?

Here are a couple listings for the original BIB CD:

AC DC Back in Black
AC DC Back in Black

I don't think Diament is actually credited on that album, but he did master it to CD.

Regarding remasters: There are plenty of exceptions, but as a general rule with CDs, I tend to stick with the original red-book releases and avoid most remasters. YMMV.

Bob Kontak 12-23-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 8926411)
Have a Drink on Me is easily the best Brian Johnson-era AC/DC tune. Flame away.

Well now..........Let's see. After a couple of days of listening intensely, I like Shake a Leg best.

However, my trusted shop sidekick who is well versed in ACDC, long time from day one, said "I like this one" when Have a Drink on Me was playing and I asked do you like this or Shake a Leg better.

There is nothing like years of exposure for clarity.

Asked him which song is best. Back in Black.

Then we listened to the High Voltage album. He knew the farkin' lyrics. Plus, an outstanding air guitar performance post some Bad Elf Winter's Ale.

Merry Christmas.

Bob Kontak 12-23-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey (Post 8929469)
Regarding remasters: There are plenty of exceptions, but as a general rule with CDs, I tend to stick with the original red-book releases and avoid most remasters. YMMV.

Thank you.

Rick Lee 12-23-2015 07:58 PM

I was playing Have a Drink on Me today with my Les Paul with new Wolfetone pickups and through my 100w Marshall Plexi. Tone of the gods.

Bob Kontak 05-08-2016 07:13 PM

Listening to ACDC across time. This one works.

Is this Bon Scott or Brian Johnson? :D

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javadog 05-09-2016 04:07 AM

Clearly that is Robert Plant.

JR

Bob Kontak 05-09-2016 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 9112456)
Clearly that is Robert Plant.

JR

I have no idea why I typed Brian Wilson rather than Brian Johnson. I had just watched a video interview someone had posted here in OT with respect to Johnson.

I do like that song.

sammyg2 05-09-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 8884382)
If you've never listened to the Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" its a great CD, it has a bunch of riffs showing how they took vocals and melded them to the music.



"The Wrecking Crew" (sometimes called "the Clique" and "the First Call Gang") was a loose-knit circle of Los Angeles' top studio session musicians whose services were constantly in demand during their heyday in the 1960s and early 1970s. In varying configurations, often anonymously, they backed dozens of popular acts on numerous top-selling hits of the era. They are considered one of the most successful session recording units in music history.

The group's ranks began to materialize in the late 1950s, but in the early 1960s they fully coalesced into what became their most recognizable form when they became the de facto house band for Phil Spector, sometimes credited as the Phil Spector Wall of Sound Orchestra, playing on many of the hits that he produced at the time, and contributing to the development of his Wall of Sound production methods. After the initial success of Spector's records, they became the most requested session musicians in Los Angeles, playing behind many popular recording artists such as Jan & Dean, Sonny & Cher, Barry McGuire, the Mamas & the Papas, Frank Sinatra, and Nancy Sinatra. They were sometimes used as "ghost players" on recordings credited to rock groups, such as the first two albums by the Monkees, the Byrds' cover version of Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man" (1965), and the Beach Boys' album Pet Sounds (1966).


Glenn Campbell was a member AND a customer.



"The Lonely Bull" Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass
"He's a Rebel" The Crystals
"Da Doo Ron Ron (When He Walked Me Home)" The Crystals
"Surf City" Jan and Dean
"Be My Baby" The Ronettes
"I Get Around" The Beach Boys
"Dead Man's Curve" Jan and Dean
"Little Old Lady (from Pasadena)" Jan and Dean
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" The Righteous Brothers
"Mountain of Love" Johnny Rivers
"Help Me, Rhonda" The Beach Boys
"Mr. Tambourine Man" The Byrds
"This Diamond Ring" Gary Lewis and the Playboys
"California Dreamin'" The Mamas & the Papas
"Eve of Destruction" Barry McGuire
"I Got You Babe" Sonny & Cher
"No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In) The T-Bones
"Good Vibrations" The Beach Boys
"Poor Side of Town" Johnny Rivers
"Monday Monday" The Mamas & the Papas
"(You're My) Soul and Inspiration" The Righteous Brothers
"I Am a Rock" Simon & Garfunkel
"Strangers in the Night" Frank Sinatra
"These Boots Are Made for Walkin'" Nancy Sinatra
"Never My Love" The Association
"Up, Up and Away" The 5th Dimension
"San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)" Scott McKenzie
"Woman, Woman" Gary Puckett and the Union Gap
"Him or Me (What's It Gonna Be)" Paul Revere & the Raiders
"The Beat Goes On" Sonny & Cher
"Wichita Lineman" Glen Campbell
"Midnight Confessions" The Grass Roots
"MacArthur Park" Richard Harris
"Mrs. Robinson" Simon & Garfunkel
"Valleri" The Monkees
"Young Girl" Gary Puckett and the Union Gap
"Classical Gas" Mason Williams
"Galveston" Glen Campbell
"Holly Holy" Neil Diamond
"Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In" The 5th Dimension
"Dizzy" Tommy Roe
"The Boxer" Simon & Garfunkel
"(They Long to Be) Close to You" The Carpenters
"Cracklin' Rosie" Neil Diamond
"Arizona" Mark Lindsay
"I Think I Love You" The Partridge Family
"Bridge over Troubled Water" Simon & Garfunkel
"Rainy Days and Mondays" The Carpenters
"Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves" Cher
"Sooner or Later" The Grass Roots
"Don't Pull Your Love" Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
"Indian Reservation" Raiders
"Hurting Each Other" The Carpenters
"(Last Night) I Didn't Get to Sleep at All" The 5th Dimension
"It Never Rains in Southern California" Albert Hammond
"Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu" Johnny Rivers
"Mother and Child Reunion" Paul Simon
"Yesterday Once More" The Carpenters
"Half-Breed" Cher
"All I Know" Art Garfunkel
"The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia" Vicki Lawrence
"Chevy Van" Sammy Johns
"The Way We Were" Barbra Streisand
"Rhinestone Cowboy" Glen Campbell
"Love Will Keep Us Together" Captain & Tennille

sammyg2 05-09-2016 01:41 PM

The wrecking crew recording Pet Sounds, with Carol Kaye in the foreground on bass.

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Bob Kontak 05-11-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9113364)
The wrecking crew recording Pet Sounds, with Carol Kaye in the foreground on bass.

Carol Kaye derived the bass riff for "The Beat Goes On".

Worthy of study.

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tabs 05-12-2016 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9113299)
"The Wrecking Crew" (sometimes called "the Clique" and "the First Call Gang") was a loose-knit circle of Los Angeles' top studio session musicians whose services were constantly in demand during their heyday in the 1960s and early 1970s. In varying configurations, often anonymously, they backed dozens of popular acts on numerous top-selling hits of the era. They are considered one of the most successful session recording units in music history.

The group's ranks began to materialize in the late 1950s, but in the early 1960s they fully coalesced into what became their most recognizable form when they became the de facto house band for Phil Spector, sometimes credited as the Phil Spector Wall of Sound Orchestra, playing on many of the hits that he produced at the time, and contributing to the development of his Wall of Sound production methods. After the initial success of Spector's records, they became the most requested session musicians in Los Angeles, playing behind many popular recording artists such as Jan & Dean, Sonny & Cher, Barry McGuire, the Mamas & the Papas, Frank Sinatra, and Nancy Sinatra. They were sometimes used as "ghost players" on recordings credited to rock groups, such as the first two albums by the Monkees, the Byrds' cover version of Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man" (1965), and the Beach Boys' album Pet Sounds (1966).


Glenn Campbell was a member AND a customer.



"The Lonely Bull" Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass
"He's a Rebel" The Crystals
"Da Doo Ron Ron (When He Walked Me Home)" The Crystals
"Surf City" Jan and Dean
"Be My Baby" The Ronettes
"I Get Around" The Beach Boys
"Dead Man's Curve" Jan and Dean
"Little Old Lady (from Pasadena)" Jan and Dean
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" The Righteous Brothers
"Mountain of Love" Johnny Rivers
"Help Me, Rhonda" The Beach Boys
"Mr. Tambourine Man" The Byrds
"This Diamond Ring" Gary Lewis and the Playboys
"California Dreamin'" The Mamas & the Papas
"Eve of Destruction" Barry McGuire
"I Got You Babe" Sonny & Cher
"No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In) The T-Bones
"Good Vibrations" The Beach Boys
"Poor Side of Town" Johnny Rivers
"Monday Monday" The Mamas & the Papas
"(You're My) Soul and Inspiration" The Righteous Brothers
"I Am a Rock" Simon & Garfunkel
"Strangers in the Night" Frank Sinatra
"These Boots Are Made for Walkin'" Nancy Sinatra
"Never My Love" The Association
"Up, Up and Away" The 5th Dimension
"San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)" Scott McKenzie
"Woman, Woman" Gary Puckett and the Union Gap
"Him or Me (What's It Gonna Be)" Paul Revere & the Raiders
"The Beat Goes On" Sonny & Cher
"Wichita Lineman" Glen Campbell
"Midnight Confessions" The Grass Roots
"MacArthur Park" Richard Harris
"Mrs. Robinson" Simon & Garfunkel
"Valleri" The Monkees
"Young Girl" Gary Puckett and the Union Gap
"Classical Gas" Mason Williams
"Galveston" Glen Campbell
"Holly Holy" Neil Diamond
"Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In" The 5th Dimension
"Dizzy" Tommy Roe
"The Boxer" Simon & Garfunkel
"(They Long to Be) Close to You" The Carpenters
"Cracklin' Rosie" Neil Diamond
"Arizona" Mark Lindsay
"I Think I Love You" The Partridge Family
"Bridge over Troubled Water" Simon & Garfunkel
"Rainy Days and Mondays" The Carpenters
"Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves" Cher
"Sooner or Later" The Grass Roots
"Don't Pull Your Love" Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
"Indian Reservation" Raiders
"Hurting Each Other" The Carpenters
"(Last Night) I Didn't Get to Sleep at All" The 5th Dimension
"It Never Rains in Southern California" Albert Hammond
"Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu" Johnny Rivers
"Mother and Child Reunion" Paul Simon
"Yesterday Once More" The Carpenters
"Half-Breed" Cher
"All I Know" Art Garfunkel
"The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia" Vicki Lawrence
"Chevy Van" Sammy Johns
"The Way We Were" Barbra Streisand
"Rhinestone Cowboy" Glen Campbell
"Love Will Keep Us Together" Captain & Tennille

Then there is member Leon Russell and his biographical song about the OK cowboys all turned on to tinsel town in Shoot Out At The Plantation.


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