Lancia Delta Integrale
 

Has anyone here done any engine work on any of these cars?

I saw that video. He did not do a head gasket as I am.

IIRC, the four cylinder engine in those cars is a 16 valve version of the old 124 engine, with a balance shaft installed where the old intermediate shaft was installed. Very much similar to a 944 engine.

Should not be to difficult to work on, very straight forward.

Thanks for the links. I already have the manuals.
The car was mixing coolant and oil. The owner suggested head gasket. I pulled the valve cover to find no3 intake cam lobes rusted which told me where the problem is. I pulled the head didn't see any obvious damage to the gasket, the head shop said the head is not cracked. I guess I measure the block straightness next? How common are block failures on these cars? I did notice the head bolts as with most of the nuts and bolts came off easily. I wonder if it wasn't torqued properly?

Try sending head to a machine shop. I'm guessing the head-shop specializes in other things.

Couldn't resist. I have nothing more to offer!

I did a head job on a Fiat 124 Sport Coupe; basically the same engine but unturbocharged.
Beautiful engine to work on, design goes back to the Maserati brothers when at OSCA.

The head is not cracked, but is it flat? Did they check?

Agree they are lovely to work on. I rebuilt a 1608cc Fiat 124 motor many years ago. That design was by Aurelio Lampredi originally. Beautifully simply and actually quite aesthetically beautiful too

Here in Tokyo head shop charge $500 to check. The owner opted to swap motors. I did VW Golfs, Porsche 911 and 944s so I figured I could handle it. Ohh boy was I wrong.
Maybe its my age but holy $"%&^ this car is a pain to work on.
First challenge, find the right timing belt. there are 2 types.
Second, getting then engine, transmission out.. Soo many bolts.
Now I am stuck separating the engine its stuck on the transfer case
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this is what I am dealing with
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How hard is it to find stew pounds of C4 over there?

;)

It will cost more to scrap it..

A carbed 911 engine looks super simple compared to that!

Holy balls. You could probably ship it to CA., have a machine shop repair it and ship it back for less than that. I can recommend a couple if you need them.

Ummm, does it have a water - oil oil cooler like a 944? Mixing water and oil you say? I bet that's your problem and you pulled the head for no reason...

It looks like those are water lines that run in beside the oil filter, those are for your oil cooler... I bet this is the culprit.

Uh-oh...^^^

any updates:)

Holy Balls you are a brave man The Marines could use a guy like you!

Sadly the Lancia doesn't have the oil/water cooling system as on the 944. Trust me that's the first thing I checked. After I pulled the head I noticed hard brown sealant like stuff in the water passages so the PO knew and tried to cheap fix it. I took a days off to a resort near Mount Fuji to spend time with the woman to keep that ticking over nicely.
Enroute back to Tokyo now. The woman is giving the E55 a caning.
I'll try to back out that big bolt. If not build an engine hoist and lift it out. Hopefully it will clear the diff flange.

I did it!! Turns out the transfer case must be removed. Undid 3 18mm bolts and the oil transfer tube and the clump separated into the engine, transfer case and transmission and a pool of gear oil. Pity the shop is closed for New Years holidays. Oh well get to do some paint repair to my E55, lower my dads E430, swap interiror on the 86-951 and repaint the 944S2.

Well I finally got into it yesterday
Got a lot done on the Lancia.
I finished stripping the old engine.
Transferred over timing covers and bolts
Discovered I got the wrong water pump.
Cleaned the work area and parts, soaking up some of the oil and coolant collect spare nuts and bolts
Moved the new engine into place.
Aligned the clutch and put the transmission in place.
More next week.
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Is it daft that I still want one of these.....?

Does the engine lift out the top of the bay on an integrale or does it have to come out the bottom?

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Kudos on pushing forward. I got the heebie-jeebies just looking at your photos. Just the layout of the accessories, cam and whatever else is driven there looks scary! :eek:

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Haha if you think that is bad - Google "Lancia Volumex Engine" - which is all that PLUS a belt driven supercharger.

As a side note I havent seen one (Volumex) on the road for about 20 years...

I am doing it from the bottom since I dont have an engine hoist. Plus I think the factory and race teams did it from the bottom. If I had the benefit of a data base, or web forum like here or Rennlist, it would have been a lot easier. Trial and error takes more time frustrations. It really is a pretty simple car, but daft design, compared to anything German. I mean about 6 bolts for an engine mount!!!! most of which are unequal lengths. 19 and 17mm transmission bolt and 1 18mm The car is filled with such inconsistencies. With any German cars the nut and bolt car logically organized in such a way that you cant confuse them, but not this baby.
Now I know. Was it worth it? If they paid me clock rate of $70/hour maybe. If they paid me a book rate, oh hell no. If I owned the car, no. Now I know why they asked me to do it and not their in-house mechanic. If I were rich enough to pay a shop yes.
I would much rather build a VW Golf MK2 with a 2.0l turbo 4motion set up. I remember years ago I so a brand new VW R32GTI just get clobbered by the Lancia at Twin Ring Motegi and that got me horny for the Lancia plus the rally creds. But after seeing the more recent videos on Youtube of these modded VW MK2s, it makes more sense. VW simplicity, reliability, and access to parts just makes sense.

Brave man. Props. I hope you get it going.

I managed to install the transfer case and transmission. But the clutch was really fiddly to put together. I have no idea, no inclination to separate the pressure plate and release bearing so I had to somehow get the fork around the release bearing in position. After about 1 hour of trying every trick and position it finally went together. But there is still a gap and 2 of the 5 bolt hole are out of alignment . My guess is one of the dowels arent seated at the bottom, where I cant see. I should get the water pump this week then next week, finish the front engine including alternator, starter, timing belt tensioner, lift it to torque down the transmission.
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Looks terrible to work on, but damn those are cool cars.

Today I did the water pump set the timing and balance shaft belt. The PITA was the right engine cover which required removing the a bracket carrying the ac compressor, power steering pump, alternator. The timing is attached at the water pump outlet pipe and behind the timing belt and balance shaft. The other/ bigger timing cover goes on easy. The big hole in the middle is for the engine stabilizer. I was right about the dowel pin. I guess one of the transmission bolt guides slide out and got bent so won't slide back into the transmission. I really don't want to have to remove the transmission again. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...0e0803c1b9.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d3eeecd1db.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b689540d69.jpg


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I was right. That dowel was completely unnecessary。Took it out and the transmission slide much closer. But it isnt completely a tight enough fit to transfer case into the transmission. Im loosing my motivation. I just want it over.

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It doesn't look like a lot of progress to the casual observer. :)

Never give up? Sometimes it is better when you do. I unloaded a couple projects before - it was a big relief. I like to give up when it is necessary! ;)

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Wish I could. My pride won't let me.Year ago stuck on a snow bound mountain driving from Toronto to Virginia. Everyone stopped. My 87 Golf couldn't get traction. I put it in reverse and backed up over the summit. Turned it into a 911. Where there is a will....


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