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Lancia Delta Integrale

Has anyone here done any engine work on any of these cars?

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I saw that video. He did not do a head gasket as I am.
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IIRC, the four cylinder engine in those cars is a 16 valve version of the old 124 engine, with a balance shaft installed where the old intermediate shaft was installed. Very much similar to a 944 engine.

Should not be to difficult to work on, very straight forward.
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http://www.manualspath.com/get~lancia-delta-integrale-workshop-manual.pdf
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Thanks for the links. I already have the manuals.
The car was mixing coolant and oil. The owner suggested head gasket. I pulled the valve cover to find no3 intake cam lobes rusted which told me where the problem is. I pulled the head didn't see any obvious damage to the gasket, the head shop said the head is not cracked. I guess I measure the block straightness next? How common are block failures on these cars? I did notice the head bolts as with most of the nuts and bolts came off easily. I wonder if it wasn't torqued properly?
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Try sending head to a machine shop. I'm guessing the head-shop specializes in other things.

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I did a head job on a Fiat 124 Sport Coupe; basically the same engine but unturbocharged.
Beautiful engine to work on, design goes back to the Maserati brothers when at OSCA.
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The head is not cracked, but is it flat? Did they check?
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I did a head job on a Fiat 124 Sport Coupe; basically the same engine but unturbocharged.
Beautiful engine to work on, design goes back to the Maserati brothers when at OSCA.
Agree they are lovely to work on. I rebuilt a 1608cc Fiat 124 motor many years ago. That design was by Aurelio Lampredi originally. Beautifully simply and actually quite aesthetically beautiful too
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Here in Tokyo head shop charge $500 to check. The owner opted to swap motors. I did VW Golfs, Porsche 911 and 944s so I figured I could handle it. Ohh boy was I wrong.
Maybe its my age but holy $"%&^ this car is a pain to work on.
First challenge, find the right timing belt. there are 2 types.
Second, getting then engine, transmission out.. Soo many bolts.
Now I am stuck separating the engine its stuck on the transfer case
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this is what I am dealing with
https://goo.gl/photos/v8CxNSW3UWjkQtns8
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How hard is it to find stew pounds of C4 over there?

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It will cost more to scrap it..
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A carbed 911 engine looks super simple compared to that!
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Here in Tokyo head shop charge $500 to check. The owner opted to swap motors. I did VW Golfs, Porsche 911 and 944s so I figured I could handle it. Ohh boy was I wrong.
Maybe its my age but holy $"%&^ this car is a pain to work on.
First challenge, find the right timing belt. there are 2 types.
Second, getting then engine, transmission out.. Soo many bolts.
Now I am stuck separating the engine its stuck on the transfer case

Holy balls. You could probably ship it to CA., have a machine shop repair it and ship it back for less than that. I can recommend a couple if you need them.
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Ummm, does it have a water - oil oil cooler like a 944? Mixing water and oil you say? I bet that's your problem and you pulled the head for no reason...
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It looks like those are water lines that run in beside the oil filter, those are for your oil cooler... I bet this is the culprit.

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