do think beer has gotten too hoppy?

[vash]

discuss. some of the new brews..the micro guys.

thanks.

[Gogar]

Yes! x1000. If I wanted to just eat pure hops I would just go buy some hops and eat it.

It's like, for me . . . IPA means I Puke Automatically.

[HHI944]

Dried hops are actually pretty mild, their flavor comes out in the brewing process. I love IPAs, the hoppier the better, but there is a weird trend of making other types of beer hoppy from stouts to Belgian tripel-style....

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by Gogar

Yes! x1000. If I wanted to just eat pure hops I would just go buy some hops and eat it.

It's like, for me . . . IPA means I Puke Automatically.

Exactly! I hate that the majority of craft beers are hop bombs. Makes it hard to navigate the beer menu!

[LWJ]

Yes. Nasty. But the beer guys seem to disagree.

[Gogar]

Originally Posted by HHI944

Dried hops are actually pretty mild, their flavor comes out in the brewing process.

That's the thing. I feel like craft brewers feel like imparting the 'hops' flavor is a measure of their skill.

At the expense of making beer that tastes horrible.

Like a guy who drives his club-racer to the bar, but forgets to go to the club races.

[cashman]

I don't mid it. It's beer. I like all beer.
What irritates me is when I go to a bar and 15 of the 20 taps are IPA's.

[cashflyer]

Yes, IMO.
I grew up with American beer. Some call it pisswater these days, but it was the beer that blue-collar American men went to regularly.

Then came the know-it-all generation. They said American beer didn't have enough flavor. They know more than the old men, and they will save us from our own uneducated taste buds. And these intellectuals somehow all equate flavor to hops content. And then was borne the love affair with hopped beer, starting gently with brands like Samual Adams. But close on it's heels was the craft beer companies that wanted to have even more flavor, so they add more hops (because hops is flavor).

IPA, Extra IPA, Double IPA, ESB, etc.
Somebody should stop the train before it gets to one meeelion IBU.


**** you neckbeard hipsters and your hop-bombs.
I'll keep drinking my American pisswater.

[jyl]

I like hoppy beers. Around 50-60 IBU is my happy spot.

But I also like stouts, porters, and ales, and i see no need for them to be hoppy.

There are so many beers out there - it is the golden age of beer, i think - that whatever your taste, there is a beer for you. Even if your taste runs to raspberry, vanilla and cumin. Shudder.

[TimT]

Yes! x1000. If I wanted to just eat pure hops I would just go buy some hops and eat it.

It's like, for me . . . IPA means I Puke Automatically.

+ one billion...

I've been home brewing for 20 something years and used to make hop bombs.... Its really easy to load up a beer with hops....I think its a style that has jumped the shark.... Use excess bitterness to cover up where the beer is missing in other flavor profiles...

I had a friend over who was reluctant to try my homebrew, he said "every home brew I have ever had is to hoppy" . He liked the Dunkel he tried

[stomachmonkey]

Yup.

Give me a good old fashioned crisp Pilsner any day.

Sometimes nothing tastes better than an ice cold Bud.

FWIW, when my friends from Germany come over they all go for Rolling Rocks and Corona.

[Nickshu]

Yes. IPAs are a joke IMHO. I have done enough homebrewing to know it doesn't take a brewing genius to just pitch bags upon bags of hops into any wort/beer and call it "uber IPA" or whatever, and pass it off as highly skilled craft brewing which it really is not.

But it sells like crazy, so guess most people like it. Personally I like lower IBU beers like wheats and Belgian styles.

[mreid]

IPAs are ruining the beer market. Give me a lager or stout.

[Grog]

WHAT!! OMG!! People have different tastes? What is the world coming to? Next thing you know they will start dissing the 944, 928 and mustang crowd.

Typed as I finish off a Sir Orange lot form Hop Valley. Next up is a Hop Hunter from sierra Nevada, yum

[mreid]

Don't forget targas. Always the targas.

[vash]

This is pretty hoppy but nor slam my face hoppy.


Sent via Jedi mind trick.

[Grog]

Lot of good brewery's in San Diago.

[Erakad]

The thing is, the Europeans all make pretty good beer, but don't feel they need to "over hop" it....and been doing it for hundreds of years. Really, I'll take them any day over the high hop micro/craft beers.

[DanielDudley]

It's all part of the beer snobbery thing. If you are too much of a snob, then you are a victim of your own snobbiness. Then again, if you are too anti snob, you also become a victim.

I don't care when people like what they like, but sometimes guys talk about ordinary beers like valley girls on a rant, dissing everything.

FWIW, I think in the old days people would cook or brew for effect, and then back off on the ingredients to make the maximum effect with a minimum of product. You can always add more sugar to an apple pie, but after a while it doesn't really get sweeter, it isn't better.

Some people can't tolerate that much sugar, it isn't right for them. for others, it is just distasteful. and I don't think you guys are being anti snobs, I think you are just calling it.

I feel the same way about chili, when it gets so hot that the rest of the flavors get lost. Yes I can tolerate it. Is that the point ? Or to go off on another beery tangent, Years ago, I used to like a Guinness later in the evening, after I had had a few. I literally needed to have a few regular beers first, just to dull my taste buds. Then a Guinness made sense to my senses. But I honestly think you could dilute Guinness 25% with a Bud Lite and hand it to an average drinker as their first drink, and it would be hard for them to tell it was diluted. It doesn't quite need to be like that. But hey, toward the end of the evening...

Everything has its place, but I don't drink Moxie either. Then again, does anyone really remember what Coca Cola tasted like before it became a chemical concoction ?

At least the new beers are natural. I just got off the bus, that's all. I think a lot of things appeal to the newer generation, just because it isn't like what we had, and it shows that they are not us.

Rant over.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by mreid

Don't forget targas. Always the targas.

I'm into Porsch Lite.