Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
wdfifteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 29,321
Garage
Are you registering your UAV??

The FAA says every UAV over 1/2 pound must be registered.

"The online registration would apply to owners of small drones weighing more than 0.55 pounds and less than 55 pounds, including payloads such as on-board cameras, according to a statement by the FAA.

“Make no mistake: unmanned aircraft enthusiasts are aviators and with that title comes a great deal of responsibility,” U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement. “Registration gives us an opportunity to work with these users to operate their unmanned aircraft safely. I’m excited to welcome these new aviators into the culture of safety and responsibility that defines American innovation.”

The new rules would require drone owners to pay a $5 registration fee. Penalties go up to $27,000 for civil violations, $250,000 for criminal acts with up to three years behind bars."

Take off weight of the popular camera carrying UAVs like the DJI Phantom is 1300 grams (over 2 lbs), so this covers a LOT of toys.

__________________
.
Old 12-14-2015, 08:49 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Get off my lawn!
 
GH85Carrera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 85,086
Garage
I suspect soon any UAV will require on-line updates before they will even launch. They will require internet connection and full registration before they will fly the first time at all. Firmware updates will be required on a regular basis and they will upload the location of every flight during the firmware updates. If the firmware is not updated, it will not fly at all.

The current batch of UAVs will be obsolete in a few years. Any UAV sold will have all the protections built in.

A friend of mine bought one for shooting real estate and weddings and such. He tried to fire it up and play with his new toy in the back yard. It would not fly at all. He was pissed and figured he got a defective one. He called tech support all made and they looked up his address and he is within 3 miles of an airport. No fly zone. He went to a friends house and it worked great.

The world of UAVs is here. I just wonder how long before the first person is walking at a park and gets killed by a UAV from some moron. It is going to happen.
__________________
Glen
49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America
1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan
1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine
My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood!
Old 12-14-2015, 09:11 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Schumi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,179
Quote:
Originally Posted by GH85Carrera View Post
The world of UAVs is here. I just wonder how long before the first person is walking at a park and gets killed by a UAV from some moron. It is going to happen.

I've been around some rather large ones being flown on the beach where I live... being flown by idiots that is.. and have been quite terrified. One guy had one that looked sorta like a hybrid of a drone and an RC helicopter, it was electric and looked to have carbon fiber blades with a span of about 3 feet. No guard around the blades. He was flying it up and down the Hermosa Beach Strand at what had to be 30 or 40+ MPH. This sucker was fast as hell, and he was barrel rolling it and flipping it and such end over end- I was walking out to the beach with my girlfriend and saw this and actually said to her "lets avoid that, and walk around" ... because I saw how fast and loose this idiot was flying this thing near the walk and all it would take would be a poor judgement with the controls and the blades of that sucker would cut deep into your head/neck/etc.

I've seen similar situations out on the beach with drones flying fast and low by kids playing and such and just think it's ridiculous. These are big 'toys' that could get out of control seriously fast and when in a crowd of people will really, really hurt someone. It's not like throwing a football around on the sand... it's a hunk of carbon and metal dropping out of the sky at however fast Newton lets it.....
__________________
M
Old 12-14-2015, 10:14 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Seahawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 31,514
I do this for a living.

We register everything but we make money with UAS.

UAS's are the ultimate asymmetric weapon, gents, the Genie is out of the bottle.
__________________
1996 FJ80.
Old 12-14-2015, 10:17 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
mikester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: My House
Posts: 5,345
Send a message via AIM to mikester
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi View Post
I've been around some rather large ones being flown on the beach where I live... being flown by idiots that is.. and have been quite terrified. One guy had one that looked sorta like a hybrid of a drone and an RC helicopter, it was electric and looked to have carbon fiber blades with a span of about 3 feet. No guard around the blades. He was flying it up and down the Hermosa Beach Strand at what had to be 30 or 40+ MPH. This sucker was fast as hell, and he was barrel rolling it and flipping it and such end over end- I was walking out to the beach with my girlfriend and saw this and actually said to her "lets avoid that, and walk around" ... because I saw how fast and loose this idiot was flying this thing near the walk and all it would take would be a poor judgement with the controls and the blades of that sucker would cut deep into your head/neck/etc.

I've seen similar situations out on the beach with drones flying fast and low by kids playing and such and just think it's ridiculous. These are big 'toys' that could get out of control seriously fast and when in a crowd of people will really, really hurt someone. It's not like throwing a football around on the sand... it's a hunk of carbon and metal dropping out of the sky at however fast Newton lets it.....
He is the reason pilots like me are now burdened with this stupidity.
__________________
-The Mikester

I heart Boobies
Old 12-14-2015, 10:21 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Cogito Ergo Sum
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 29,791
Garage
I read a piece that said they'd refund the $5 fee for anyone registering in the first 30 days. Might as well do it now. It's a one time registration that is good for all your craft.
Old 12-14-2015, 10:24 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
SCadaddle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 2,354
Press Release – FAA Announces Small UAS Registration Rule

It's a $5 fee for your entire fleet of model aircraft and if you do it before a certain date the $5 is refunded. Then it is another $5 every 3 years.

Of course they want it to be an online registration event where you give a gubmint contractor your name, physical address, email address and pay the fee with a credit card.

What could go wrong?

I'll add that I am a 40 year veteran of flying model aircraft safely and responsibly through the community based organization known as the AMA, and I for one am opposed to this new ruling.
Old 12-14-2015, 11:32 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW Cheese Country
Posts: 13,571
Garage
Question is, with they take a Visa gift card?

I was going to join the AMA. I am undecided now.

I would rather take away the drivers license of the idiots that can't fly with respect. They aren't going to register anyway.
__________________
Brent
The X15 was the only aircraft I flew where I was glad the engine quit. - Milt Thompson.

"Don't get so caught up in your right to dissent that you forget your obligation to contribute." Mrs. James to her son Chappie.
Old 12-14-2015, 11:53 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
B58/732
 
BlueSkyJaunte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Hot as Hell, AZ
Posts: 12,313
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCadaddle View Post
I'll add that I am a 40 year veteran of flying model aircraft safely and responsibly through the community based organization known as the AMA, and I for one am opposed to this new ruling.
Yeah, my father is in the same boat. He's been flying model airplanes since the 50's. He's pissed, to put it mildly.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
I don't always talk to vegetarians--but when I do, it's with a mouthful of bacon.
Old 12-14-2015, 11:57 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Seahawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 31,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte View Post
Yeah, my father is in the same boat. He's been flying model airplanes since the 50's. He's pissed, to put it mildly.
If I was not a commercial 333 operator, in this for the long haul, I would not register.

I worked on all the FAA/OSD committees on file and fly, sense and avoid, flight in the national airspace and helped write some of the foundational rules for drones. The registration ruling has no meaning for hobbyists.
__________________
1996 FJ80.
Old 12-14-2015, 12:08 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Embraer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Indy
Posts: 4,323
Garage
I write coa's for faa district approval...if you have questions, pm me. The .991 just came out last month.
__________________
-mike
Old 12-14-2015, 12:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW Cheese Country
Posts: 13,571
Garage
Seems silly to register everything from kites to quads in the .55lb to 55lb class when it is the idiots with more money than sense causing most of the issues.
__________________
Brent
The X15 was the only aircraft I flew where I was glad the engine quit. - Milt Thompson.

"Don't get so caught up in your right to dissent that you forget your obligation to contribute." Mrs. James to her son Chappie.
Old 12-14-2015, 01:01 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SW Cheese Country
Posts: 13,571
Garage
If you go by the tethered and capable of sustained flight part it would include a kite. There may be an exception for kites but I can see them being just as much an issue fro you helo pilots.
__________________
Brent
The X15 was the only aircraft I flew where I was glad the engine quit. - Milt Thompson.

"Don't get so caught up in your right to dissent that you forget your obligation to contribute." Mrs. James to her son Chappie.
Old 12-14-2015, 01:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
aap1966's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,518
Garage
Quote:
SCadaddle;8917599
I'll add that I am a 40 year veteran of flying model aircraft safely and responsibly through the community based organization known as the AMA, and I for one am opposed to this new ruling
Guys like you aren't the problem. If something is genuinely difficult, people (as a whole) tend to do it well. The hassle, expense and humiliation of doing things badly provides the discipline.
The problem now is some-one can now make a spur of the moment decision to buy a cheap drone of dubious quality and be flying it in minutes. No (perceived) difficulty, no discipline.
__________________
(As for) Michael Moore:Calling that lying liberal POS propaganda a documentary is like calling PARF the library of congress.

I knew it would happen, just not so soon...........
Old 12-14-2015, 02:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Information Junky
 
island911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: an island, upper left coast, USA
Posts: 73,189
IIRC Congress passed something a while back which explicitly stated that hobbyist model airplanes would always remain exempt.
__________________
Everyone you meet knows something you don't. - - - and a whole bunch of crap that is wrong.
Disclaimer: the above was 2˘ worth.
More information is available as my professional opinion, which is provided for an exorbitant fee.
Old 12-14-2015, 03:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Information Junky
 
island911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: an island, upper left coast, USA
Posts: 73,189
Quote:
Originally Posted by GH85Carrera View Post
The world of UAVs is here. I just wonder how long before the first person is walking at a park and gets killed by a UAV from some moron. It is going to happen.
Big airplane fall out of the sky too. ...as do model rocket and RC planes.

There's a saying; what goes up, must something something... oh; Come Down

...and no doubt people said the same thing when the wright brothers took flight.
__________________
Everyone you meet knows something you don't. - - - and a whole bunch of crap that is wrong.
Disclaimer: the above was 2˘ worth.
More information is available as my professional opinion, which is provided for an exorbitant fee.
Old 12-14-2015, 03:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Targa, Panamera Turbo
 
M.D. Holloway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 22,366
Now if there was a lawyer with any sense that said lawyer would get versed real fast in the defense of a drone operator or the defense of a person on the wrong end of a drone operator!

I see this as being bigger then gay wedding planners...
__________________
Michael D. Holloway
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Holloway
https://5thorderindustry.com/
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=michael+d+holloway&crid=3AWD8RUVY3E2F&sprefix= michael+d+holloway%2Caps%2C136&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
Old 12-14-2015, 03:31 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
You do not have permissi
 
john70t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: midwest
Posts: 39,923
Quote:
Originally Posted by island911 View Post
Big airplane fall out of the sky too. ...as do model rocket and RC planes.

There's a saying; what goes up, must something something... oh; Come Down
Cool.
Government tracking and remote control of all vehicles. Kill switch.

Remind me again to buy a GM with OnStar(tm).
__________________
Meanwhile other things are still happening.
Old 12-14-2015, 04:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
VFR750's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 2,119
I will register but I'm not happy. Been flying r/c since 1975. I have a basement full of "drones" managed not to make a nuisance of myself.

I would expect someone will complain the next time they see one. I have to protect myself with FAA registration and AMA membership. I imagine the FAA will impose fines to show they mean business.

Just can't imagine the registration system working well four (!) days before Christmas. It will likely crash very shortly after opening.

Too many people to register in such a short window before Christmas. Probably 150,000+ AMA members alone. >10,000,000 more non-AMA members is a light guess. All trying to save $5.

Congress did specifically exempt model airplanes. FAA likely used emergency power to sidestep the law.

And yes, it is because casual users of cheap ready to fly aircraft can be real idiots.
Old 12-14-2015, 05:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Air Medal or two
 
afterburn 549's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: cross roads
Posts: 14,081
Great, Now do tell me- How will this 5 dollar tax make anything safer ?
Samocrap diferent day

__________________
D troop 3/5 Air Cav,( Bastard CAV) and 162 Assult Helicopter Co- (Vultures) South of Saigon, U Minh Forest, Delta, and all parts in between
Old 12-14-2015, 05:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:57 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.