Thoughts on this '66 Mustang Restomod....and restomods in general ?

[mreid]

How about this one:

[VINMAN]

Wheels gotta go. Chevy engine in a Ford = sacrilege! Other than that I like it!

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[masraum]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Most here don't seem to like this particular restomod.
Got any links to restomods that you did like ?

10 Best Restomod Ideas for Mustangs

[mreid]

Not this:

[dafischer]

I'm not a strict purist, but that is blasphemy at many levels. Foremost being a Chevy engine with automatic.

[J P Stein]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Does anyone recall that recent Mustang thread here?
A Pelican was selling his fastback on Ebay for like $25k.
Can anyone find that thread?

You mean this one?

I did sell it on evilbay for 29K. Lost money on the deal.
The initial goal was modest.....get it to ride & handle as well as my 05 Tacoma. Not successful......the rear suspension was hopeless. Another $4k or so might have fixed it but I was at the end of my rope.

[Scuba Steve]

Originally Posted by masraum

I like restomods when done so they improve handling, performance and reliability, but keep the character of the original car intact. This particular one isn't my cup of tea.

I've no desire for digital guages, huge speakers or giant wheels. I'd probably have been ok with 15, 16 or maybe very tasteful, lightweight 17" wheels, but these are a bit much.

My thoughts exactly. For some reason I'm a huge fan of old school gauges, maybe because they fit the car as a whole. The digital stuff may look cool now but will age completely differently than the rest of the car and will seem dated or out of place after a while. It reminds me of putting the digital dash out of a 1980s 300Z in there, or maybe the one from grandma's '91 Cutlass.

The wheels and rear shelf speakers are also overdone IMO. They also seem out of place or overstated.

[Laneco]

I absolutely love restomods. But I prefer to keep American Iron with engines in their own family.

For this car, I would have gone to a late model Ford flat plane crank badass engine with a proper manual transmission. Think free-flowing exhaust because when the flat plane Ford spins up toward 8K it is pretty incredible sounding! Would have gone a little deeper into the suspension than was done here - thinking IRS from another late model mustang.

This car sits too high and the wheels are too big for the fender wells and fender height. Something in the 16/17 would have been more my taste and not a flashy chrome. Maybe a polished lip and paint the rest of it to match the stripe on the car.

So whereas I love restomods, I'm not in love with this one. It will be a push to get 25K for it with the chevy engine. The type of person who wants a restomod ford wants a ford drivetrain.

angela

[herr_oberst]

JP Stein, I always thought your Fastback had a great look, especially after the Jet Focking Black paintjob. I would have left the grilles in the B pillars, but I sure do like those Fenton style wheels. Everyone always uses Cragar S/S's or Torquethrusts; the Fentons just look good, and yours had plenty of rubber wrapped around them.

I hope you got a chance to do a few "Bullitt" style burnouts with the car before you shipped it off! If you're gonna have a solid axle, might as well treat it like a tramp!

(BTW, I hope your health is progressing nicely!)

[asphaltgambler]

Nothing wrong with restomods if done correctly, I actually like them as it combines classic looks (hopefully) with modern handling, braking and dependable performance. Unfortunately, most 'builders' get it wrong, and even though lot's of $$ is thrown at it the end sum does not equal the total package.

Too many variables, one of which is poor taste and execution. While there are many different styles and off-sets of Foose wheels - that setup is probably not the best choice. Adding to that it looks like it sits high enough to have a 4X4 conversion already.

I could not imagine that car in any configuration having a SBC.............. While Fords are not my cup-O-tea necessarily, why ruin it? Unless the car is a '32 coupe or shoebox why not choose one of the many offerings from the blue oval? SBF's are just as cheap if not cheaper than a Bow-Tie equivalent?

If I saw that and it didn't have a Ford engine in it, wouldn't waste another second of my thoughts.

[sugarwood]

Can you discuss the limitations of the rear suspension?
How does the fixed axle fall short of the IRS ?

http://www.mustangandfords.com/parts/mump-0705-mustang-suspension-restomod-guide/

[VFR750]

Not to beat the dead horse, but at only $3800, the LS-1 represented only 10% of the parts bill and 99.9% of the heartburn.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

What are your thoughts on restomods, in general?

It depends on how extreme they are. This one has jumped the shark. If you want a new car, go buy a new car. If you want a new car that looks like an old Mustang, don't eff it up and put those ugly ass wheels on it.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by mreid

Not this:

Interesting. Reminds me of some of the early 70s italian and Euro designs that I've seen after they stopped with the curvy sexy shapes and started in on the more angular "modern" shapes.

[asphaltgambler]

My experience is with a car like that there is nothing wrong with the stock-style rear suspension, just have to 'modernize' it. Custom multiple / progressive leaf springs, using a Cal-Trac or similar setup to transfer torque to the rear sub-frame instead of the spring. Quality, adjustable shocks designed for the application and proper sized sway bar.

Now you could get yer wallet out and spring for a $4-5K 4-link and coil-over setup and start-over. Of course if you're planning to build a nice car, then you'd probably throw all the stock stuff in the trash bin and buy something front and back engineered for modern handling.

You could easily invest in quality aftermarket full suspension, big brakes and frame ties-strengthener's and modern wheels. On a car like that you've already spent $13-18K not including your time to perform the work including mini-tubing the rear inner wheel wells.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve

My thoughts exactly. For some reason I'm a huge fan of old school gauges, maybe because they fit the car as a whole. The digital stuff may look cool now but will age completely differently than the rest of the car and will seem dated or out of place after a while. It reminds me of putting the digital dash out of a 1980s 300Z in there, or maybe the one from grandma's '91 Cutlass.

The wheels and rear shelf speakers are also overdone IMO. They also seem out of place or overstated.

Exactly, if I was going aftermarket, it would be good quality, analog Autometer, Stewart Warner, VDO, etc....

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

1966 Ford Mustang - | Used Inventory

A friend of a friend is considering this car, what say you?
Will this car sell for $25k?

What are your thoughts on restomods, in general?
I'd imagine they do not appeal to the collector or the track driver.

Chevy engine in a Ford seems like a branding screw up.
Now....Ford guy won't touch it. Chevy guy doesn't want it, either.

I'd be most interested in what suspension updates were done.
Then again, it's an automatic, so whatever.

Seems like a car without a niche.
No collector wants it.
No track guy wants it.
Ricer boyz don't want this homage to Grandpa.
They should rent it for music videos or something.

Tell your friend to find a NICE car. WTF is up with that hole in the trunk leaving an exposed gas tank, and note the single Master Cylinder STILL on the car.

All that crap and didn't upgrade the brakes, and that gas tank scares the **** out of me.

Sorry, I think it's a hack.

[sugarwood]

The blue digital dash raises a core issue with this genre. You need to find a buyer with equally oddball taste as you. Mods are very subjective personal. They're expensive, and most others don't approve.

I bet this applies to selling anything kustomized and 1-off (weirdly painted guitar, oddly designed house, etc)

[sugarwood]

Can someone explain the limitations of the OEM master cylinder?
What was its original intended use, and how does it fall short on an upgraded car?
I thought it just held some fluid.

[RANDY P]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Can someone explain the limitations of the OEM master cylinder?
What was its original intended use, and how does it fall short on an upgraded car?
I thought it just held some fluid.

1) there's no booster there- you know what kind of braking effort that thing must have?

2)- the dual MC is there to separate the front and rear systems- in the event one MC seal fails, the other still works, so 1/2 of the braking system will still be operational. You can upgrade, easily.

3)- that false floor with no partition between the tank and the passenger compartment is just scary- also the BATTERY is right next to it.

The car is just a bad collection of catalog parts, fitted together poorly.. Those wheels are ugly as sin too.

Also, the car has AC but no working heat. Whatever.

rjp