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The car is just a bad collection of catalog parts, fitted together poorly..
I was going to post this, but you beat me to it. This car reflects the Chip Fook "resto-mod" formula:
  • throwing random catalog garbage at the car until you run out of budget
  • unload it as fast as you can, like a smelly dead hooker's corpse
  • profit!
  • Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Old 12-21-2015, 08:04 AM
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At the bottom line the money is in the car,however , would you ever get it out ?
It is basically a one of a kind mutt with no pedigree .
Each to their own.
I would spend the 25k on a little more true to form .

I think you could spend a lot less and get a lot more. JMO
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Old 12-21-2015, 08:43 AM
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I can't add much here - i even cringe if a Chevy engine goes into a BOP. There are a ton of very cool options if it comes to Ford engines. the builder / PO must have aimed at making an impression at the local Saturday evening car show. In no way is this a driver's car ...

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Old 12-21-2015, 09:04 AM
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The restomod in question is sold.

The dude is now looking at this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272064183981
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Old 12-21-2015, 12:23 PM
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Nice looking car, been sitting for a while based on the cobwebs underneath. My only cosmetic knock is that the tires look oversized, otherwise it looks clean and much less hacked. But $25k still seems like a lot of money for a plain-jane coupe. Except for the condition, that is a dime-a-dozen car. It also isn't numbers matching and there's no detail about mechanical upgrades or maintenance.
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Old 12-21-2015, 12:33 PM
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I'm not a Mustang fan but the second one looks like a nice driver that you could enjoy for cruises and the like.
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Old 12-21-2015, 12:40 PM
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What is the VIN, is that a plain Jane "A" code car?
Old 12-21-2015, 12:58 PM
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What is the VIN, is that a plain Jane "A" code car?
Nope, C code. Nice car. Not a fan of the color combo, though.
Old 12-21-2015, 02:12 PM
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Not wanting to be a contrarian, but it seems the Mustvette is getting a bad rap for stuff that was factory 911 setup.

The 911 battery is not in a box, and it is 1" away from the tank. In the crush zone. Hot lead 1" from the fender. It's packed real tight in there.

Why is a box needed for a battery mounted in a more isolated space?

I agree a cover on the tank would be good. Does the fine German grey felt count as an effective cover?

Maybe there is a little aluminum plate clamping the battery, just like the 911?

My point being, look in the front of a 911. Electrical fuse panel, heater and air ducts, switches, radio, gages, unboxed battery, uncovered fuel tank all together. In the front. It's a bit messy too.

Covered up by a cardboard panel and felt.
The mustvette has a hole hacked in the floor for no good reason. Easier access to the fuel pump sender? It's not like the tank is difficult to remove anyhow.

You use a battery box as another level of isolation in the event of leaks- also, there is no air circulation in the trunk- you know what that means? Chance of gas buildup and explosion, and it's behind the back seat thanks to the new location- which was also poorly done- look how it's mounted.

Why would he move the battery out back? It's not like the car is setup to do anything anyhow? Weight distribution?

As for a 911, I would suspect the suspension cradle and a 5 MPH crash bumper being directly next to the tank has some merit- not to mention it came from the factory (where it was crash certified) that way.

That stang is a POS, sorry.

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Old 12-21-2015, 06:28 PM
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The restomod in question is sold.
LOL.

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Old 12-21-2015, 06:29 PM
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Nice looking car, been sitting for a while based on the cobwebs underneath. My only cosmetic knock is that the tires look oversized, otherwise it looks clean and much less hacked. But $25k still seems like a lot of money for a plain-jane coupe. Except for the condition, that is a dime-a-dozen car. It also isn't numbers matching and there's no detail about mechanical upgrades or maintenance.
+1 asking premium, and can't even give the car a decent detail. One of the tires shows evidence of a wheel cylinder letting go. I bet it'll need mechanical maintenance.

At least that one has a 302 in it.
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:43 PM
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Not sure where you heard that but you have been misinformed.
PTFE tape will not disintegrate because of contact with fuel. Any fuel this side of hydrazine.
Teflon is one of the most chemical-resistant materials known to man.
It is good in that application to nearly 500 degrees F.
And using it between the brass and aluminium is perfectly acceptable, better in fact than the more common use of stainless steel to aluminium.


BUT ..... there is a problem with Teflon tape and a reason it is not allowed in my shops and why I recommend others do not use it either:
When used to seal threads, the tape gets cut into tiny slivers. They fill the voids in the threads and do the actual sealing. But when you take apart the connection it is nearly impossible to get ALL of those tape slivers out of there and they can contaminate the system.
The white tape disintegrates exposed to fuel. We talking about the same stuff?
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:44 PM
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It looks like it has a single chamber master cylinder. If that is correct why would you build a car to this level and not use a dual master? Slotted drilled rotors on the front but not on the rear? Four wheel disc, single master? Am I seeing that right?

Personally for me I would prefer to see a Ford motor however the LS engine is a sweet motor. I also expect three pedals on a car like this. :-)

I think the wheels and the stance are also wrong, but again that is just my opinion.

Restomods are like any modified car, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If done right they can be a blast, modern performance in a vintage look.

I actually like the one on ebay better, looks more period correct and with a Ford motor. It looks like a clean car you can get in and enjoy.
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:59 PM
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It's been resto-muddled .

Coupes are super when really done well!

This all day. Really like this. My first car was a 67 rustang, always have an eye out for a decent early mustang.
Old 12-21-2015, 08:24 PM
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I've recently been given the task of a 62 Thunderbird, and I'm wondering when do you keep it sacred stock and when do you go for the outright improvements, such as electronic ignition, dual brakes, disc brakes, power assisted etc. How much weight does factory original carry on classic cars?
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Old 12-24-2015, 05:52 AM
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Simple answer is its your car, do what you want. If you care about the next owner, maybe you dont plan to keep it forever, try to skip changes that cant be undone.
Old 12-24-2015, 06:32 AM
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IMO, early T-birds were always intended to be classy and mild. They were about understated image. Pick a very subtle color (like really light yellow/cream), lower it onto some steel wheels with stock hubcaps, some wide whitewalls and leave the look at that. Google image should be a pretty good resource.

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I've recently been given the task of a 62 Thunderbird, and I'm wondering when do you keep it sacred stock and when do you go for the outright improvements, such as electronic ignition, dual brakes, disc brakes, power assisted etc. How much weight does factory original carry on classic cars?
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Old 12-24-2015, 06:51 AM
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I am also in the camp of likening restromods as long as they keep a stock look and just go for performance upgrades.

Took a couple sick days and got caught up on Jay Leno's show... he drove a stock car driver's 1971 Corvette... looked pretty much stock except he blacked out the chrome and dropped a +400 HP Chevy crate motor in it, now THAT I liked!

Also binged watched a new show "graveyard carz" about a guy/shop the restores only MOPAR's. The guy is a pretty hard core keep it stock guy, they knock out some pretty nice cars.

I think we are unanimous in disliking the wheels on this car (maybe a pelican first!)
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Old 12-24-2015, 07:04 AM
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I've recently been given the task of a 62 Thunderbird, and I'm wondering when do you keep it sacred stock and when do you go for the outright improvements, such as electronic ignition, dual brakes, disc brakes, power assisted etc. How much weight does factory original carry on classic cars?
My personal take on it is wherever possible update mechanical / electrical systems to improve function and reliability.

Aesthetics are trickier. The most common thing we all see is a wheel that is too modern for a body style. Modernizing aesthetics by simply using what's new on the market today IMHO does not work well because the modern components are designed with a different approach to style and proportion so they look out of place as part of the whole.

I think it's easier to get a result that stands the test of time by focusing on simplifying aesthetic mods.

Kind of like Yellowbird bumpers on an impact bumper car will always look correct and timeless while a Kremer body kit.......

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