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wdfifteen 01-05-2016 08:00 PM

Making a Murderer - Anybody watch it?
 
I watched six episodes in a row tonight. If I could keep my eyes open I'd watch the last 4 episodes tonight. Fascinating.
It's on Netflix.

WolfeMacleod 01-05-2016 08:40 PM

Yep, I posted about it a few days ago. Saw on the news tonight that there's a massive "free Steven" campaign going on right now. The defense attorney was interviewed a few days ago, too.

I'm not sure what to make of it. Supposedly there was some stuff not presented in the film.
Personally, I don't think he did it... I think it was a way to make a 60+ Million dollar lawsuit go away quickly.

wdfifteen 01-05-2016 08:48 PM

^^
This may be where I first heard of it. Mrs WD said she wanted to watch it, fell asleep during the second hour. I was still glued to the screen 6 hours later.

NY65912 01-06-2016 02:31 AM

Just started watching last night, finished episode 3. Very interesting.

968rz 01-06-2016 04:45 AM

As a person who lives near Milwaukee, that guy is NOT Innocent. Who runs and hides like he did because he didn't do anything wrong?

Rickysa 01-06-2016 04:48 AM

Watched the whole thing last week...if the info portrayed is anywhere near accurate, it's hard not to think something fishy went (is going) on.

When the defense atty was asked for an interview by the makers of the movie years after the trial, his comment (in the movie) was something like: "Actually I really hope he did it...if not it scares the hell out of me what has been done to him".

That's before the series was released...since he didn't have anything to gain by it (all possible legal avenues exhausted), I thought that was a pretty strong statement.

wdfifteen 01-06-2016 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 968rz (Post 8945635)
As a person who lives near Milwaukee, that guy is NOT Innocent. Who runs and hides like he did because he didn't do anything wrong?

Which guy? There are a lot of people in this story who could be guilty of wrong doing. Which one ran and hid? I don't remember anyone running, but I'm only 6 hours into the story.

968rz 01-06-2016 05:29 AM

Steve Avery led the cops on a chase once they found him.

stealthn 01-06-2016 05:34 AM

They just found her remains on his property - guilty...

biosurfer1 01-06-2016 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 8945710)
They just found her remains on his property - guilty...

Apparently planting evidence is a common theme in this story.

Eric Hahl 01-06-2016 06:24 AM

IMHO, it's a show made to get ratings, get people talking about it and new subscribers to Netflix. I watched it all the way through and thought, wow, what is going on here. However, after some research you will find the presented material to be lacking or very one sided.

sand_man 01-06-2016 06:42 AM

When first released, Netflix also released the first episode to YouTube. I'm planning to start it this week:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/34M2zdLc-2U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Baz 01-06-2016 07:33 AM

Avery's downward spiral in life was cast when he threw that cat into the fire.

Karma is a b****!

968rz 01-06-2016 07:51 AM

Our crappy governor (scott walker) just declined his pardon

Scott Walker: No pardon for Steven Avery

BlueSkyJaunte 01-06-2016 08:09 AM

My wife and I binge-watched Jessica Jones instead. Pretty dark stuff for a Marvel thing.

speeder 01-06-2016 09:40 AM

I'm 3 episodes in and regardless of anyone's guilt or innocence, the 16 y.o. kid's "defense attorney" should be taken out and shot in the balls. Holy Christ.

I've heard stories of poor people getting less than completely competent counsel from PDs or court appointed lawyers but he was beyond all comprehension. I'm trying to imagine what outhouse law school graduated that freak. I was so pissed-off watching it that I'm still calming down. Unbelievable. :mad::rolleyes:

Rickysa 01-06-2016 09:44 AM

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"defense attorney" should be taken out and shot in the balls

I'm not sure if spoilers apply here, but I don't want to take a chance...so, I'll just say: watch it all, and in the end his behavior is enough for at the very least a retrial.

craigster59 01-06-2016 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 8946064)
I'm 3 episodes in and regardless of anyone's guilt or innocence, the 16 y.o. kid's "defense attorney" should be taken out and shot in the balls. Holy Christ.

I've heard stories of poor people getting less than completely competent counsel from PDs or court appointed lawyers but he was beyond all comprehension. I'm trying to imagine what outhouse law school graduated that freak. I was so pissed-off watching it that I'm still calming down. Unbelievable. :mad::rolleyes:

Len Kachinsky. What a smarmy POS he is. Last episode they do a wrap up and "where are they today", and I was surprised he was still able to practice law.

speeder 01-06-2016 09:57 AM

I'm talking about his original attorney, who was released in the episode I watched last night.

I grew up with a great defense lawyer as a dad and I know that everyone cannot be Perry Mason but holy balls.

This guy's approach was basically, "I have no game. I have no legal skills. I've never really set foot in a courtroom before so the best I can do is plea you out immediately based on your testimony against the other guy, who I have no idea what the evidence against him is because it's still being assembled. I haven't done any discovery. The only evidence they have against you is your own coerced statements w/o an attorney present and you are borderline mentally retarded plus your statements conflict each other.

Furthermore, I'm going to have my 'investigator', (who does not actually investigate), help you craft a written confession and then feed you to the police detectives so that you can confess and incriminate yourself to them, again w/o an attorney present. I should normally be present for this part but I'll be busy beating-off to clown porn and working on my William Macy impression from Fargo."

craigster59 01-06-2016 10:07 AM

I think you're referring to Len Kachinsky. He tried unsuccessfully to run for some judicial office and came in third (surprise, surprise) and states he needed something "high profile" to enhance his public persona, hence taking on the kid's defense.


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