Unidentified planes come at you and HOW do you not go defensive?

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Easily one of the most idiotic things I have read on PPOT this year.

no, I think you just topped it.




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[patz]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

just showing what Putin can do to obaama, at any time, any place. It's pretty sad our world has come to this, maybe Hillary can talk to Putin and tell him to wait until she is elected, then she can reset the button.

Way to PARF it up, you weenie. Stay out of my thread.

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by patz

Way to PARF it up, you weenie. Stay out of my thread.

you can't be slow enough to think a thread about Putin, jets buzzing American Navy isn't PARF material, can you?

[patz]

Dickwad. No one sad dick about Putin.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

We should have scrambled about 6 armed F-14's and escorted them out of the area. But alas, Putin knows what he's dealing with and no appropriate response was going to happen.

The Tomcat was retired years ago.

We have defenses that can deal with a missile but if they wanted to drop some dumb bombs on the ship they would be screwed IF they thought they were doing another dry run. If they were going to attack for real all Russia would have to show for it is a bunch of dead aircrew.

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by patz

Dickwad. No one sad dick about Putin.

my my, you need to go back and read some of this, and Putin is the one calling the shots on those planes, he knows he can do what he wants with obaama living in DC.
As he knows what he will do when Hillary is elected.

[Nickshu]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

More Putin with the stick in the eye for obaama, nothing obaam will do about anything anyway. After Benghazi what can you expect.

Pretty much sums it up. Noone in the world fears us anymore, we are seen as weak and impotent in the world especially to Russia and China as well as Iran with the recent abduction of Navy personnel after we just gave them billions back with their new deal.

[creaturecat]

seems like it was a fly by. nothing more.
what's with all the hatred and panic? sheesh.

[Otter74]

If only our president and armed forces were as big of a big tough guy as internet keyboard warriors are, we'd be all set.

[Hawkeye's-911T]

5-4-3-2-1- Parf-time. Sorry patz - unfortunately it appears to be the direction this thread is taking.
Cheers
JB

[BeyGon]

now look at all the lefties defending Putin here.

[widgeon13]

Yep, it was Maverick and Goose!

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

my my, you need to go back and read some of this, and Putin is the one calling the shots on those planes, he knows he can do what he wants with obaama living in DC.
As he knows what he will do when Hillary is elected.

So what would you have the captain of that fine vessel do in this case?

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye's-911T

5-4-3-2-1- Parf-time. Sorry patz - unfortunately it appears to be the direction this thread is taking.
Cheers
JB

That was the direction it started in. This is political posturing by Putin, "Look how tough I am."

PARF, the "P" stands for politics, as in, political posturing.

This is like the scrub on the football team trying to start a fight with the star on the opposing team. Best thing to do is laugh, ask if that is the best they have and play on. If they were doing this a lot, I would have men on deck peeling potatoes with instructions to toss them in the air as Maverickovich and Gooski approach for their flyby. Even if you have a 1/100 shot of hitting, eventually you are going to have a Russian bird in the water without a shot fired.

Oh, BTW, they were not "unidentified"

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by flipper35

So what would you have the captain of that fine vessel do in this case?

the leftists here miss the point, the fact the Russians feel free to do that anytime they want. It's not an isolated incident, it is what Putin want's to do with our weak limp leader living in DC. Maybe you would like to have that Captain just give up his Destroyer like the Captain of the Pueblo did while LBJ was in charge. These people understand a weak person in charge.

[flipper35]

What I am asking is what would you have the captain do?

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by flipper35

What I am asking is what would you have the captain do?

The Captain did what he was told, that's all there is. There is no way they didn't know exactly who/what these planes were, unlike the title of this thread. Someone up the chain set this in motion and let Putin make a public spectacle of our Navy.
Not the first time, just awhile back they let Iran do it. Weak "leader" we have.

[Rick Lee]

AFAIK, painting a plane with a missile lock is the equivalent of pointing a pistol at someone's head and cocking the hammer back. I highly doubt we've ever done that with these fly-bys, but it would be an escalation if we did. Until then, why would Russia stop? It makes Putin look strong and us look weak. There's no downside for him. China didn't think twice about sacrificing a pilot back in 2001, and they got a huge intel and propaganda boost out of it. I don't think Putin has anything to lose here and he knows we won't do anything about it.

BTW, why would a USN ship ever let any plane get that close to it? All kinds of bad things could happen, by accident or design.

[BK911]

Should have seen what we were doing to news helos in the gulf ~1988. And unmarked small surface craft.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by BeyGon

The Captain did what he was told, that's all there is. There is no way they didn't know exactly who/what these planes were, unlike the title of this thread. Someone up the chain set this in motion and let Putin make a public spectacle of our Navy.
Not the first time, just awhile back they let Iran do it. Weak "leader" we have.

I agree that they knew exactly what aircraft was up and about and which were coming to buzz them.

I didn't ask what you would do as captain, I asked what you would have the captain do. As in, pretend you are our leader and your orders to this guy would be?