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island911 06-12-2016 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9157214)
Don't leave out ridiculous ideas like reusable rockets.

I don't follow. It sounds like you are saying that reusable rockets are some new innovation.

Scott R 06-12-2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 9156757)
Why would you buy your MIL a Tesla when you're constantly spewing Tesla is dead /will die here on PPOT? Don't you like her? :confused:

That's what she wanted, also bough he a nice condo and paid off her house.

Bob Kontak 06-12-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 9156739)
I bought a Model S for my mother-in-law and it's a complete piece of s**t. Here is a picture of us dropping it off for the umpteenth time this year.

My pal has an S. Three years old?

He has to drive it a few times a year to Columbus, OH from Oil City, PA to get upgrades, tweaks, re-flashes on this or that but no mechanical issues yet (that he originated as a concern). I don't think he has 25k miles though.

wdfifteen 06-12-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 9157227)
I don't follow. It sounds like you are saying that reusable rockets are some new innovation.

I don't know where you got that idea. Why aren't people railing against the Falcon 9? Why did you leave it out of your list? It's arguably one of his best-know projects.

BeyGon 06-12-2016 02:39 PM

evidently not.

island911 06-12-2016 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9157672)
I don't know where you got that idea. Why aren't people railing against the Falcon 9? Why did you leave it out of your list? It's arguably one of his best-know projects.

What list?

Geez you are full of non-sequiturs today.

island911 06-12-2016 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 9157461)
That's what she wanted,...

Pretty powerful stuff. Dispassionate about the green-touting/electric cars, and the reality of the Tesla build comes out with ease.

My business neighbor bought a Model S. Spent a bunch more on wheels, black-out trim etc. ... and sold it with in months. Bought a giant obnoxious truck and a Prius instead.:-/

zelrik911 06-13-2016 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid (Post 9156728)
Rusted tie rod from living on a dirt road?
Sounds like growth pains from inadequate real world testing.

Is that tie rod (the rusted one) a hangover from Tesla's LOTUS ancestor?
I wonder if Tesla will become the DeLorean of the future, who was also involved with LOTUS.

berettafan 06-13-2016 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9156045)
You don't have to do anything if you aren't a sanctioned club. I don't have a problem with it at all. If you want to be a Tesla sanctioned car club, you have to be on Tesla's side. Who wouldn't expect that?
I don't get all this hatred for Tesla. The guy is the quintessential American success story. I'm glad he's not just sitting on a yacht smoking cigars.

I disagree. he is an example of corp welfare.

rick-l 06-13-2016 07:30 AM

^^^^^^^^this

If you are going to pick a winner he better be special.


Does anyone know if Tesla has a Facebook policy for employees?

john70t 06-13-2016 07:45 AM

There is a pelican who works there and some past threads.
I'm sure there is a heavy NDA, as with most companies, plus it is bad form to discuss.

I lost interest when they went for the 2-$peed transmission, booted founders, and turned to the government/stocks route.

1990C4S 06-13-2016 08:06 AM

I work there quite a bit.

When I read about a 'suspension issue' I was shocked it was a ball joint. There are bigger issues with their suspension. Ball joints have never been mentioned to me as a source of problems.

Which is why I was inclined to side with Tesla on this one customer issue. There are other issues that would have elicited a different response from me.

Tobra 06-13-2016 10:00 AM

In reading the article linked in the OP, it sounds like there are some suspension issues. The following tale they tell sounds like BS. Two tow trucks, really? I guess one of the tow trucks would only work on a paved road or something.
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With respect to the car that is discussed in the blog post that led to yesterday’s news... the suspension ball joint experienced very abnormal rust. We haven’t seen this on any other car, suggesting a very unusual use case. The car had over 70,000 miles on it and its owner lives down such a long dirt road that it required two tow trucks to retrieve the car. (One to get the car to the highway and one to get it from the highway to the service center.) When we got the car, it was caked in dirt.
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 9158104)
What list?

Geez you are full of non-sequiturs today.

What do you mean, "today"

Scott R 06-13-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9157560)
My pal has an S. Three years old?

He has to drive it a few times a year to Columbus, OH from Oil City, PA to get upgrades, tweaks, re-flashes on this or that but no mechanical issues yet (that he originated as a concern). I don't think he has 25k miles though.

It will be three in September. We've had a lot of rain lately, well a lot for us and it seems the sunroof leaks have developed mold behind the a-pillar. We had reported an odd smell and they are saying that's likely the cause.

sugarwood 06-13-2016 01:28 PM

Why is Tesla a "massive scam" ?
It only seems a scam to the people that will be left holding the TSLA bubble bag

legion 06-13-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9159021)
Why is Tesla a "massive scam" ?
It only seems a scam to the people that will be left holding the TSLA bubble bag

Tesla is a mechanism for collecting taxpayer subsidies masquerading as a car company.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-13-2016 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 9159297)
Tesla is a mechanism for collecting taxpayer subsidies masquerading as a car company.

peanuts compared to Lockheed Martin's F-35 and on par with every other Fortune 500 company.

rick-l 06-13-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9159316)
peanuts compared to Lockheed Martin's F-35 and on par with every other Fortune 500 company.

How is funding an unsustainable startup and buying a fighter built to your specifications comparable?

Arizona_928 06-13-2016 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 9159454)
How is funding an unsustainable startup and buying a fighter built to your specifications comparable?

When they catch fire on the run way without a reason.... Shall we not forgot it's not exactly what we wanted? The ruskies get the SU 35, and we get a donkey jaw....


Btw I agree with the two tow truck bs. If a low clearance electric car can make it.....

sugarwood 06-14-2016 04:01 AM

How unsustainable exactly? How do you see the endgame of Tesla? 5 years? 10 years?


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