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| Information Junky Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: an island, upper left coast, USA 
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I don't follow.  It sounds like you are saying that reusable rockets are some  new innovation.
		 
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|  06-12-2016, 07:36 AM | 
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That's what she wanted, also bough he a nice condo and paid off her house.
		 
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 He has to drive it a few times a year to Columbus, OH from Oil City, PA to get upgrades, tweaks, re-flashes on this or that but no mechanical issues yet (that he originated as a concern). I don't think he has 25k miles though. 
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I don't know where you got that idea. Why aren't people railing against the Falcon 9? Why did you leave it out of your list? It's arguably one of his best-know projects.
		 
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			evidently not.
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|  06-12-2016, 02:39 PM | 
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| Information Junky Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: an island, upper left coast, USA 
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 Geez you are full of non-sequiturs today. 
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| Information Junky Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: an island, upper left coast, USA 
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Pretty powerful stuff.   Dispassionate about the green-touting/electric cars, and the reality of the Tesla build comes out with ease. My business neighbor bought a Model S. Spent a bunch more on wheels, black-out trim etc. ... and sold it with in months. Bought a giant obnoxious truck and a Prius instead.:-/ 
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|  06-12-2016, 08:30 PM | 
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 I wonder if Tesla will become the DeLorean of the future, who was also involved with LOTUS. | ||
|  06-13-2016, 03:34 AM | 
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| (the shotguns) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland 
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|  06-13-2016, 04:40 AM | 
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			^^^^^^^^this If you are going to pick a winner he better be special. Does anyone know if Tesla has a Facebook policy for employees? 
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|  06-13-2016, 07:30 AM | 
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| You do not have permissi Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: midwest 
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			There is a pelican who works there and some past threads.  I'm sure there is a heavy NDA, as with most companies, plus it is bad form to discuss. I lost interest when they went for the 2-$peed transmission, booted founders, and turned to the government/stocks route. | ||
|  06-13-2016, 07:45 AM | 
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			I work there quite a bit. When I read about a 'suspension issue' I was shocked it was a ball joint. There are bigger issues with their suspension. Ball joints have never been mentioned to me as a source of problems. Which is why I was inclined to side with Tesla on this one customer issue. There are other issues that would have elicited a different response from me. 
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|  06-13-2016, 08:06 AM | 
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			In reading the article linked in the OP, it sounds like there are some suspension issues.  The following tale they tell sounds like BS. Two tow trucks, really?  I guess one of the tow trucks would only work on a paved road or something. Quote: 
 
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|  06-13-2016, 10:00 AM | 
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It will be three in September.  We've had a lot of rain lately, well a lot for us and it seems the sunroof leaks have developed mold behind the a-pillar.  We had reported an odd smell and they are saying that's likely the cause.
		 
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|  06-13-2016, 12:23 PM | 
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			Why is Tesla a "massive scam" ? It only seems a scam to the people that will be left holding the TSLA bubble bag 
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|  06-13-2016, 01:28 PM | 
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Tesla is a mechanism for collecting taxpayer subsidies masquerading as a car company.
		 
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|  06-13-2016, 05:48 PM | 
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peanuts compared to Lockheed Martin's F-35 and on par with every other Fortune 500 company.
		 
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|  06-13-2016, 05:56 PM | 
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How is funding an unsustainable startup and buying a fighter built to your specifications comparable?
		 
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|  06-13-2016, 07:53 PM | 
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 Btw I agree with the two tow truck bs. If a low clearance electric car can make it..... 
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			How unsustainable exactly?  How do you see the endgame of Tesla? 5 years? 10 years?
		 
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