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911SauCy 08-16-2016 07:41 AM

So, I'm in a similar but different situation with my 3.0 motor.

It (very likely) has a bad valve guide on #2 because the exhaust side comp is like 90% leak down, basically running on 5 cyl when I pulled it, but all other leak down numbers are right where they should be.

Am I crazy for planning to yank the left carrier, try to pull only that cylinder and fix just that?

Engine has 167k on it, only 34k on top-end rebuild.

edgemar 08-16-2016 07:57 AM

What barrels are you going to get? Same pistons?

Did you have alusil or nikasil?

1990C4S 08-16-2016 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 911SauCy (Post 9242692)
Am I crazy for planning to yank the left carrier, try to pull only that cylinder and fix just that?

Engine has 167k on it, only 34k on top-end rebuild.

Not crazy, that's what I would do.

911SauCy 08-16-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by edgemar (Post 9242711)
What barrels are you going to get? Same pistons?

Did you have alusil or nikasil?

I was literally planning to pull the one head off, have it fixed, and put it all back together. If I'm not going to pull the Ps/Cs why would that matter?

I'm not asking to be a wise arse, I'm being serious. Why not just fix what's broken instead of the toss cash at it just because approach...

edgemar 08-16-2016 08:14 AM

Sorry-

Question was for original poster.

Your plan sounds good to to me :)

syncroid 08-16-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by edgemar (Post 9242711)
What barrels are you going to get? Same pistons?

Did you have alusil or nikasil?

Nikasil. I will be putting the factory Mahle units on. I believe the new ones will also be Nikasil.

GH85Carrera 08-16-2016 11:35 AM

We my engine was apart I was real happy I went "all the way" because the intermediate shaft bearings had some significant wear. How was the shaft bearing on this engine?

Cool project to document. No doubt many of us would love to be there to get in your way and ask stupid questions and slow thing down. ;)

syncroid 08-16-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9243055)
We my engine was apart I was real happy I went "all the way" because the intermediate shaft bearings had some significant wear. How was the shaft bearing on this engine?

Cool project to document. No doubt many of us would love to be there to get in your way and ask stupid questions and slow thing down. ;)

The intermediate shaft and bearings looked fabulous. I have not removed the rods from the crank yet. I am waiting for my crankshaft holder that I ordered from Stomski Racing. I should be getting back on it Friday. (my day off) I am going to take the case home and on Friday have it steam cleaned. That should save me a few hours of scrub time in the solvent tank. :)
The guys at the shop seem to think having this motor here is a "borrow parts" paradise. Fine by me since they replace what they took with new.


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syncroid 08-17-2016 12:32 PM

My wallet just got a whole lot thinner.

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mikedsilva 08-17-2016 12:49 PM

Im curious to see how you go with those Glyco bearings.. clearance wise...

syncroid 08-17-2016 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikedsilva (Post 9244422)
Im curious to see how you go with those Glyco bearings.. clearance wise...

Mike, I think Glyco has gotten a bad name for other reasons. We have used Glyco bearings in all of the engines we have built with the exception of customers supplying their own bearings. IE. Clevite, Jerry Woods. We have never once had an issue with them. (25+ years) I had a long conversation with Wrightwood Racing on this very issue. For you, and for my own curiosity I will use Plastigauge on the bearings and check. I usually verify part numbers and stampings, assemble, and see how the "feel" is. I'll go a step further for you. :)

Building these engines is not an easy task as you know. The sheer parts count is astounding!

I received my STOMSKI crankshaft holder today. What a piece of craftsmanship! Can't wait to use it Friday. BTW, Great customer service too. Steven Stomski, if You are following this thread, Thank you!
Pics to follow.

syncroid 08-19-2016 11:15 AM

I am not getting too much done today. I took the rods off of the crank. One set of the bearings on #3 cylinder had some significant scratches on them. The rest of the bearings looked pretty good. The crank is being shipped off today to CCR to have it mag checked, cleaned out, and polished up.

I also dropped the engine case off at the local steam cleaners to have all the cracks and crevices cleaned. I need to go pick that up before they close.

The rods are going to German Precision to be done. I have two sets of 3.2/3.3 rods already done that I picked up today. Both have ARP rod bolts. One set is for this motor and the other set is for sale if anyone is interested in them.

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syncroid 08-20-2016 11:12 AM

Today is head stud removal day. I am replacing the original studs with all steel "Raceware" studs. The last stud (upper #3 nearest the flywheel end) is the worst one to remove.

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impactbumper 08-20-2016 11:16 AM

3.2 Carrera engine project (to be sold)
 
Now the fun part begins.


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Shaun @ Tru6 08-20-2016 11:17 AM

I wish I could tumble that case for you Dan.

syncroid 08-20-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9248323)
I wish I could tumble that case for you Dan.

Me too Shaun. :D Right now I am flat stoning all of the outer flat surface gasket areas.


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Shaun @ Tru6 08-20-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by syncroid (Post 9248337)
Me too Shaun. :D Right now I am flat stoning all of the outer flat surface gasket areas.


You are a true professional Dan and a credit to Porsche Independents!

I'd wager few are dedicated to that kind of attention to detail, time and care.

porsche4life 08-20-2016 11:42 AM

Gorgeous work Dan. Wish I was nearby, I'd offer to be your shop ***** just for the experience.

syncroid 08-20-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 9248343)
Gorgeous work Dan. Wish I was nearby, I'd offer to be your shop ***** just for the experience.

Come on down Sid. SmileWavy
Gotta make sure those case oil squirters are clear!


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syncroid 08-20-2016 02:13 PM

Studs back in and case is cleaned and prepped for assembly.

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syncroid 08-26-2016 11:10 AM

Today is mostly getting all of the internal organs of the engine ready, cleaned, and parts R&R'd.

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wildthing 08-26-2016 02:28 PM

Dang I shoulda stopped by. And I drove my 911 into Sunnyvale to have lunch today.

But I might get lucky and get to 200k miles before mine is due...

syncroid 08-29-2016 05:22 PM

Things are moving right along. I have all of the case hardware cleaned and prepped for assembly. I also have the chain housings, chain covers, and oil pump cleaned and prepped for assembly. All of the galley plugs in the case and blind studs in the chain housings have been epoxied just as the factory does.

I have been sourcing parts that were missing from the motor here on Pelican.
I got word today that Armando from CCR shipped the crankshaft via FedEx. I am hoping to see it before the weekend. I had him cross drill it for better lubrication on cylinders #2 and #5.

I also heard back from the machinist, MTE, LLC, that the heads and cam towers are mostly done.

Hopefully if all the stars and moon line up, I will have it all by the weekend. If so, the build begins. More pictures to follow. :)

I need a clone...of me.

MBAtarga 08-29-2016 05:58 PM

If you get all the parts by the weekend, you can spend Labor Day, laboring away!

porsche4life 08-29-2016 08:45 PM

Looking good dan! Got a buyer yet?!

syncroid 08-30-2016 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 9260792)
Looking good dan! Got a buyer yet?!

Not that I know of. I have not even counted up the stack of receipts for parts yet. I'm afraid to. :eek:

syncroid 09-01-2016 02:50 PM

I received the crankshaft back today. Looks great! I'll be starting assembly tomorrow. :D

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mikedsilva 09-02-2016 12:48 AM

very cool...
Im interested to find out if there is a alignment for the rods.. ie, does it matter which way around they are mounted on the crankshaft? (this might be a silly question!)

syncroid 09-02-2016 11:03 AM

I started out the morning driving up to South San Francisco to drop off round two of the powder coating goodies. I got a much later start today then I wanted to but....OHWELL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedsilva (Post 9244422)
Im curious to see how you go with those Glyco bearings.. clearance wise...

Mike, Plastigage was used this morning to check rod bearing clearances. 002" Very uniform crush all the way across.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedsilva
very cool...
Im interested to find out if there is a alignment for the rods.. ie, does it matter which way around they are mounted on the crankshaft? (this might be a silly question!)

As a general rule, I always keep all of the rod number stamps facing up. An old habit from my old VW days. These rods are semetrical and it does not really matter which way they go. Type one VW rods are asemetrical and they DO matter which way they are assembled.

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herr_oberst 09-02-2016 11:10 AM

There's beauty in a crankshaft.....

syncroid 09-02-2016 02:05 PM

Good progress today so far.

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syncroid 09-02-2016 02:07 PM

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syncroid 09-02-2016 03:35 PM

I think that is enough progress for the day. I should be getting the heads and cam towers back from the machinist next week. The cylinder air deflectors are what I dropped off at the powder coaters this morning. I will need those back before I can put the heads on anyways. I will probably be working on the intake manifold assembly next. I am replacing all of the fuel lines and re-installing missing parts on that.

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1990C4S 09-03-2016 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 9219488)
Engine forum maybe? Not that anyone will be disinterested.


Quote:

Originally Posted by rardon (Post 9266394)
Engine forum maybe? Not that anyone will be disinterested.

Another pithy quote that grabbed the spammers attention. :rolleyes:

Shaun @ Tru6 09-03-2016 04:25 AM

STOP QUOTING SPAMMERS!!!!!

They hide images in their posts for tracking. When you quote them, you DOUBLE their tracking.

If you want to quote them, put spaces in their image URLs.



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syncroid 09-10-2016 04:16 PM

Friday was my running around day. Drove up to South San Francisco again to pick up the rest of the powder coated goodies. From there it was off to German Precision to glass bead all of the hardware that is going to be re-plated. I got to hang out with Ted and Jerry Woods for awhile. Jerry was making a tool for a 996 transmission. After getting all of the hardware stripped it was off to the plating shop then back here to work on the engine for a bit.
Today has been, or at least felt like I got something done. :D Heads are on, cams in, cam paralell alignment checked, rockers installed, valves pre-adjusted, and ready to set cam timing. I'll save that for tomorrow. I'm burnt.
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syncroid 09-10-2016 04:20 PM

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syncroid 09-10-2016 04:23 PM

I decided to put the 964 grind cams in. :D :D :D

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syncroid 09-11-2016 12:53 PM

Cam timing is all set. Long block assembly complete. Now I need to wait for the stuff at the platers to be finished. The fan, fan housing, fan strap, and pulley hardware is also going to be awhile.

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syncroid 09-11-2016 12:55 PM

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