You just aren't understanding me. I never once mentioned whether people can like or dislike a certain make or model of car. I am not a fan of the 986 or 996, but I don't slam them on the board. Why? Because they're Porsches, that's why.

I am saying - and feel free to copy and paste this to your desktop for future reference - THIS IS A PORSCHE FORUM!!! Therefore, only PORSCHE photos and conversation should be allowed. If you want to tell me a story about how your 993 blew the doors off of a Lambo or Ferrari, I'm all ears. But don't go on about how beautiful and fun and nice and spiffy and blah blah blah Ferraris and Lambos are ... I just don't care.

If you want to talk about those things, go ahead and do it somewhere else. This is a PORSCHE board and I think that we need to make sure that it stays that way.

I mean, with Porsche building an SUV, loyalty to the marque is all but finished. Today, while waiting at the Inn, I watched at least 20 Porsches go by without the drivers even acknowledging the massive gathering of Stuttgart hardware in the Inn parking lot. You know what that says to me? It says loyalty to the marque is dead.

As the son of a Porsche mechanic, THAT MAKES ME SICK. We need to band together and keep the foundation intact. How many Le Mans wins? Who dominated IMSA and Can-AM. That's right, PORSCHE. How many people who drive 996s and Boxsters know about the history of the company that builds their cars. I can guarantee you not that many.

Whether you like it or not, we're a family. I may be the black sheep, but at least my principles are still intact.

As for the Italian heaps being on the run ... that's cool. It was nice seeing them there. However, they have no place on this board. The Becks - whom I respect to the ends of the Earth - are paying homage to the marque with the work they do. Besides, the more 914 trannys that Randy breaks, the more mine is worth.

But seriously folks, the family Beck are truly amazing people who have done nothing but good for the Porsche marque - all of their Porsche replicas carry Porsche powerplants. Remember that. I may be a little harsh, but I'm the guy who's gonna die with a Porsche crest on my back. I want to make sure that we don't forget our heritage.

three illuminations for you, Mr9146:
 

1) Lots of Porsche buyers know nothing about the history. Who cares? Porsche doesn't. They just want to sell cars. "History" masquerades as ad material in most corporations. If enthusiasts buy into it, that doesn't necessarily perpetuate the brand.

2) Given your harsh criticism of anything un-Porsche today, did you have a problem with the Renegade (sp?) V8 914, or just half a problem?

3) You say "You just aren't understanding me." Given a great day of great car fun, you're correct, I don't understand you.

The Renegade car gets no love from me because it doesn't have a Porsche motor. It's like putting a Chevy motor in a Ford ... sacreligious.

I had a great time today. I can't wait to do it again. But the point ... and I just don't see how people can miss this ... the point is:

THIS IS A PORSCHE BOARD!!! I DON'T LOG ON HERE TO SEE PICTURES OF LAMBOS AND FERRARIS. THEY DON'T BELONG HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A PORSCHE BOARD. IF YOU WANT TO SEE PICTURES AND HEAR STORIES ABOUT ITALIAN HARDWARE, GO TO AN ITALIAN HARDWARE APPRECIATION SITE. BUT PLEASE DON'T BRING THAT CRAP INTO MY HOUSE. :mad:

Finally, history is not something that you "buy into." As a Porsche owner, if you don't understand that, I pity you. I remember a time when owning a Porsche was more than just a status symbol. I am sorry to see those days are gone.:(

Sounds like we got us a Troll.....:eek:

Uh, Mr9146, newsflash: this isn't your house.

There are lots of enthusiasts on this board who are grateful for the pictures from the event. We're not going to get too worked up about the occasional picture of another performance car, just as we're not going to get all worked up about 914-owners posting on the 911 board.

You're welcome here, of course. But I looked, and I can't find the point where anyone in this thread asked for the lecture.

mr9146, there was no 'talk' about lambos, ferraris etc., until you started dissing them. There are two pictures of a couple of lamborginis, that were involved in the run, which is what this thread is about. If you see a picture of a particular car you do not like...USE YOUR SCROLL BAR.....whether it is an italian car picture, a boxster picture, a picture of someone's garage floor, or their family cat...if you don't like it, move on!!.. Obviously, this board is not 100 % tech, like it or not. Read the topics you like, skip the posts you don't like. After reviewing your contributions, i see you are a better critic than a technician. MAX

Mr9146, I would much rather have all those lambo owners be a part of this BBS then your ignorant, uneducated ass so please take your lame comments and bull**** claims elsewhere. Oh yeah, and post some pictures of your Volkswagen so we can marvel at your "lambo beater".

See you on stunt,

amir:rolleyes:

Let the spanking begin !!!
 

http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/spankA.gif
Look on the bright side MR9146, your number of posts has just exceeded your IQ !!

It seems that I have struck a nerve.

Mr. Olson - The reference to "my house" is purely figurative; your response was very level-headed and I do owe you an apology for the tirade.

Max - My computer is not as fast as my car and it takes a long time to load pictures. If I'm gonna wait for pictures, on a Porsche board I would hope that I'm waiting for pictures of Porsches. As far a my being a critic and technician, all I can say is that I built my own Porsche when I was 16, I worked of 4 cam racecars when I was 18, and I work on 911s now. But I don't mind you pulling my chain and getting me all worked up ... without passion, what do we have? Oh, and I do scroll.

ZAMIRZ - Bring it. I just ordered a new set of tires, and I need you to help me adjust my rearview mirror.

Kevin - Nice animation. Is 11 a high IQ?

I just want to let you all know that I don't mind being the common enemy. I spoke my piece and now I'm done. And for those of you out there who wanted to know, my shoe leather tastes just fine.

PS: If you are interested in my car, Amir, then do a forum search for the Turkey Run II video. My car is the one directly in front of the camera. There are also some stills scattered throughout the video, although they hardley do justice. Oh, and what car do you take up to stunt, I need to know who to look for. :)

I have an '83 SC, bone stock with low compression on the left bank. I'm up on Stunt about 3-4 times a week, sometimes even more. I usually do Stunt to Latigo and then get back on Mulholland and hit Dry Canyon before heading back out of the canyon, when are you there? Funny, because I believe I know someone who's friends with you, I believe he lives off Winnetka close to Ventura just north of the 101 and his screenname is Stealth_03 or something along those lines on a differnet forum. He actually referred me to your dad at TLG. You seem like a nice guy, you're probably just a keyboard warrior. Have a nice day, and I hope to see you out there sometime this weekend.

later,

amirSmileWavy

p.s. if you have AIM, get online and IM me, ZAMIRZ.

Mr.9146: Turkey Run Vid.
 

Cool shots and video. Nice 914, too. I've heard of the Turkey Run, but don't know where and when it takes place.

Can you enlighten me? Looks fun.

BTW: any Lambos or F-cars there?;)

Amir - What is this AIM thing? Is that AOL instant message? I am ususally up at Stunt and Mulholland on Saturday and/or Sunday. I spend about a tank of gas just cruising the mountains, and I usually have my camera with me when I roll. You're right, my dad is Tony from TLG - but I don't claim to represent the business and I surely don't represent his points of view. I think that I'm a little too extreme even for his taste. As far as your friend who referred you to my pop, I don't know who you're talking about. If you had his name ...? Just know that my dad is THE MAN when it comes to air-cooled Porsches. And that is not a family bias.

DD74 - Thanks. And ... NO! There were no rolling Italian paperweights at the event. If you are interested in the Turkey Run, contact Dave B. at Road and Race - he posted on the Turkey Run thread - he and a guy named Kurt set the event up each year around Thanks-Day.

I truly am a keyboard warrior ... I guess that's what happens when you write for a living.

mr914....aaahhhh....the old culprit: slow download times.....that and possibly not much sleep last night (Being new years eve and all) enough to make anyone a little edgey.!! My critic/technician reference was in regard to your posts here on the board. (which is all I know you by) Now that you have given more background on yourself, I (and I'm sure, all) are looking forward to you funnelling some of your knowledge , experience, and passion into helping porsche owners with their technical problems. Please read this post in 'serious' mode, not 'sarcastic'. A fact of life on this bulletin board is that it is not " 100 % Porsche, 100% of the time" The balance of tech/dumb questions/good answers/ fluff/ nonsense etc.. may or may not please each person . From reading a few other bulletin boards, I think the balance here is usually not too bad. If you are pressed for time, (Or, if you have a slow modem/computer) one must be somewhat selective on threads/posts chosen. I am a 'visual' kind of guy, hence, enjoy pictures and assume most others do, but sometimes don't think too much about file size and download times.(I have been spoiled by high-speed internet and fairly quick computers since diving into the cyber world less than two years ago). Again, am looking forward to your experience and passion helping everyone keeping their cars where they belong, on the road!!!:) I think i should go to sleep now myself, so tomorrow isn't "one of those days".....happy new year all....MAX

9146
 

Cool! Thanks!

This board needs pictures of Lamborghinis more than it needs attitude from a 22 year old that thinks he knows everything. MR9146, I did a search and read all your previous posts. Your typing style is antagonistic and arrogant.
News flash: you don't know everything. lamborghinis will spank you bad with the right driver. Your car is not that special. There are plenty of people on this board who own cars that will spank you, and I am also sure there are plenty of drivers on this board that can whip up on you too.
Take a prozac, tone it down a little, and realize that just because it's different doesn't make it crap.

isn't 9146 the one with the ink from the turkey day photos? See guys, we just don't have the necessary dedication, and are not worthy. We should probably find a VW board to go play on...

And I'll look at pictures of most any car if they relate to the topic at hand. I recall posting an AMC photo or two. Now where is that Lambo SUV photo? :)

This one?

Mr 9146, for a newbie you have quite the attitude. No one made you the board censor. I for one thought the pics were great. The only thing I envy is not being there for the run!