Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9268776)

You offered a truce. I offered and agreed to nothing...as you were the one with the poor behavior. I have no obligation to cease defending myself or my actions because you "offered a truce."

Even if I had agreed to your "truce" which I clearly did not; because I realized that I would be obliged to keep it and you would not (as we both view honorable behavior quite differently)...that would still not obligate me not to respond when the topic comes up. In fact, I have only responded to you and others who have addressed the topic and reserve the right to continue to do so. Even so, you cannot seem to make a post without the childish name-calling and misrepresenting the facts. It is rather amazing to me that you would believe you can act like this and then when you tire of your tantrum, expect that I would be fine with forgiving you without any contrition on your part. That would be tantamount to agreeing that I had sunk to your level in this debate...which I certainly did not.

As far as my defense, I don't think I need anyone coming to my defense. I am capable of defending myself (I am sure that some are quietly enjoying the train wreck). If that is how you judge your behavior, you are using a poor metric.

You can stop any time you choose.

Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9268901)

ladies, I think its bed time.

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9271047)

I found a car for sale when I was on a road trip. Told the fellow I would take it at asking price and could write a check or use a credit card (he had a business and could have accepted it). He did not trust either since he did not know me and I was from another state. I greed to return with cash in two days to pick up the car. I went home and got a credit card advance (so I could make it back as agreed)...cost me several hundred bucks. Drove back several hundred miles to pick up the car and arrived as scheduled...the ******* had already sold it to someone else. Gave me the same BS story that several have posted here...I couldn't really expect him to not take more money if offered. That would be stupid.

I would never pull that crap. No matter what the price.

Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9271769)

The truth finally comes out, but your anecdote doesn’t even come close to any scenario discussed by anyone advocating that the OP was within his rights to change his mind on the price once he learned it was way underpriced. First of all, the OP didn’t sell his car upon his first opportunity – he actually met with the original caller and sold it to him (Albeit at a higher price), even though he had buyers with cash on hand offering above selling price before meeting the eventual buyer.

In your case, your seller is a POS if he knew you were traveling hundreds of miles to buy AFTER ALREADY SEEING THE CAR, coming to terms on the deal and exchanging information with a promise to return with full payment, and sold it without even giving you a courtesy call. That's not okay, IMO, under any circumstances, and that most certainly didn't happen in the case of the OP. Not even close. Your scenario isn’t even in the same stratosphere as the one being “discussed” here. But I think anyone who has been reading this thread already knows that. SmileWavy

Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9272953)

With as many deals as you've purported to be screwed over on in this thread, I wouldn't go around calling anyone "beyond-belief stupid." And I don't think it's your gullibility either. Just seems like plain ol' business incompetence. BTW, did you leave a deposit for that seller hundreds of miles away to hold your car? What did you do to ensure he had skin in the game and not screw you? Most honor the handshake, I've done it many times, but most don't as there are tons of CL crook buyers out there and scams. If you were a serious buyer, cash on hand as a deposit was required.

And sure, your post was in response to the post before, but it uncovered the real root cause of the animosity you have because you were screwed in an unrelated situation to the premise of this thread. That's the "truth revealed" to anyone with basic common sense.

P.S. You should outsource your business dealings - you suck at them.

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9273099)

Frankly, I am glad that any potential business deals with dishonest folks fell through... As I would rather not deal with such scum.

Yes, I would consider myself handicapped in business dealings as compared to someone like you who is not encumbered by a necessity to deal honestly. Just the same, I have still been able to build a considerable net worth...so I would venture that if you worked a bit harder and smarter, you could do the same...honorably.

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9272381)

You jumped right past stupid and incredibly stupid...to incredibly, beyond-belief stupid.

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9273241)

The honorable hypocrite.

And not once in any post have I ever even hinted at working with anyone dishonorably. You, however, continue to slither like a snake. So long. I noticed you're in about 2 other active arguments in other threads. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9276904)

I haven't looked but I wonder if any of you high and mighty "honor" guys bragged about getting a steal here: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/780747-craigslist-garage-sale-scores.html