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EMJ 09-03-2016 10:33 AM

I call a truce. An Olive branch...

fintstone 09-03-2016 10:35 AM

You could have stopped at any time. Feel free to do so.

KFC911 09-03-2016 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9266886)
I call a truce. An Olive branch...

Thank you! Fint....please stop also.

You are both honorable men in "my little world" who have a difference of opinion on a chat board....let it go :)

fintstone 09-03-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9266927)
Thank you! Fint....please stop also.

You are both honorable men in "my little world" who have a difference of opinion on a chat board....let it go :)

I never started. Call me names or lie about me...and I will respond...as I did here. Stop, and I stop. I thought I was pretty easy on him and even stopped responding may posts ago...he just kept going (even though the conversation was neither about him nor addressed him). As posted, he could have stopped at any time...and still can. It has always been his decision.

EMJ 09-04-2016 07:49 AM

Can't help yourself, can you, Fint? I call a truce and extend an olive branch but you wanna keep taking pot shots at me. You were "easy on me." You got your ass waxed all over this thread on the facts and still you're twisting what everyone can read for themselves: that you're a fraud. And not a man of your word even when you agreed on a truce. Still had to get one last dig at me, though. A man of honor and morals. What a joke.

I see you waited until late in the evening yesterday to post your last shot about me, too. Just like a snake. Continue on without me. And while you're at it, get a life. And grow a pair of balls.

fintstone 09-04-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9267886)
Can't help yourself, can you, Fint? I call a truce and extend an olive branch but you wanna keep taking pot shots at me. You were "easy on me." You got your ass waxed all over this thread on the facts and still you're twisting what everyone can read for themselves: that you're a fraud. And not a man of your word even when you agreed on a truce. Still had to get one last dig at me, though. A man of honor and morals. What a joke.

I see you waited until late in the evening yesterday to post your last shot about me, too. Just like a snake. Continue on without me. And while you're at it, get a life. And grow a pair of balls.

I agreed to nothing...just as I posted. If you would stop posting lies (like that one), you might not be corrected so often. Why do you keep making this stuff up?

You just can't help yourself. You could stop at any time...and still can. All I have done is respond.

Of course, I will respond to you...and anyone who implies that I am operating at the same level as you...or misrepresents me or my position in any way...and I have made it quite clear. I don't take insults or misrepresentations lightly and will continue to correct them as long as they are offered. Not because I care what you think, but rather, because someone might start reading the thread after my post and not realize your misrepresentation is a totally inaccurate description of events.

Of course I was easy on you. Do you really think your name-calling is an intelligent or effective argument? Simply claiming an internet victory does not mean you have achieved one...or even made an intelligent argument. Please note that I did not lower myself to that/your level...and have neither called you a snake or suggested you were an eunuch (terms you seem fond of....but, ass waxing ?? LOL). Pointing out your misrepresentations is just that. Tell the truth and I will no longer be able to do so...you win. It is...and has always been, your decision.

If you truly wanted to offer an olive branch as posted, you would apologize...both for misrepresenting my posts and for post after post of name-calling. I realize that may pass for debate in your world, but not in mine.

EMJ 09-04-2016 08:40 AM

Narcissistic ego maniac, with the proverbial superiority complex. Pervasive liar and manipulator. I didn't know they allowed internet access in the insane asylum. I'm out - got a life to live with my sweet family. Later chump. Take all your shots now. Like the cowards do.

fintstone 09-04-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9267944)
Narcissistic ego maniac, with the proverbial superiority complex. Pervasive liar and manipulator. I didn't know they allowed internet access in the insane asylum. I'm out - got a life to live with my sweet family. Later chump. Take all your shots now. Like the cowards do.

I see you still choose to engage in a battle of wits when so clearly unarmed. Perhaps you should reconsider your choice.

At least you limited your name-calling to only 5 different names this time (out of only a couple lines of text)...of course the "insane asylum" remark clearly implied another...so I guess you get points for that as well. You are clearly winning.

Funny how you consider my posting on the internet while you are doing something else to be cowardice. Do you think we should be scheduling our internet time to coincide so I can respond to your name-calling while you wait and you can read my response and reply immediately with more better childishness? Hard to imagine...and a bit sad that you would organize your life...or expect me to organize mine that way...even if you consider that to be internet bravery.

Rodsrsr 09-04-2016 05:50 PM

Come on Flint.....while I agree with you're position, the man did extend an olive branch which is rare on this forum. That makes him a stand up guy in my book.

creaturecat 09-04-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 9266862)
this thread reminds me of my old dog, Gypsy - attacking a smelly sock.
never letting go.
i mean that in a good way ....... : )

pic of old Gyp. wearing a wig. late '70's.
he loved sheep fur. and running away.
he was included in a car purchase. '68 V8 Chevelle 2dr hardtop (and a promise to take care of the dog) for 600 bucks.

I KEPT MY WORD. (thread content) : )
the dog was with us to the bitter end. 8-9 years. and a fine pet he was.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1473041531.jpg

fintstone 09-04-2016 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 9268418)
Come on Flint.....while I agree with you're position, the man did extend an olive branch which is rare on this forum. That makes him a stand up guy in my book.

I appreciate your sentiment but, As I posted...the problem is his...as is the solution. It is not like I am calling him names as he is me...only correcting misrepresentations. Why would I agree to stop doing so? I have every right to present my opinion here without personal attack or misrepresentation of opinion. If others cannot debate as an adult, I have no obligation to coddle them or accept that I am somehow equally at fault.

A stand up guy would go back, correct his misrepresentations...and then apologize for the name calling. One does not accept an "olive branch" without contrition...offered by an unrepentant person...particularly after such unprovoked boorish behavior.

His last post is not indicative of remorse, but rather...of previous poor behavior.

If he wants to stop posting such foolishness...he should do so by all means. I will not agree to forfeit the right to respond to anyone.

fintstone 09-04-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 9268443)
pic of old Gyp. wearing a wig. late '70's.
he loved sheep fur. and running away...

...the dog was with us to the bitter end. 8-9 years. and a fine pet he was...

Looks like a fine dog. Reminds me of the old saying (versions have been attributed to many, but this one to Madame de Stael):

"The more I see of men the more I like dogs."

EMJ 09-05-2016 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 9268459)
I appreciate your sentiment but, As I posted...the problem is his...as is the solution. It is not like I am calling him names as he is me...only correcting misrepresentations. Why would I agree to stop doing so? I have every right to present my opinion here without personal attack or misrepresentation of opinion. If others cannot debate as an adult, I have no obligation to coddle them or accept that I am somehow equally at fault.

A stand up guy would go back, correct his misrepresentations...and then apologize for the name calling. One does not accept an "olive branch" without contrition...offered by an unrepentant person...particularly after such unprovoked boorish behavior.

His last post is not indicative of remorse, but rather...of previous poor behavior.

If he wants to stop posting such foolishness...he should do so by all means. I will not agree to forfeit the right to respond to anyone.

Sad, lonely man with nothing to do, huh. Living in a delusional world of lies and low character. Apology? To you, Fint? Go suck monkey diicks. Get a life and get laid on occasion if you can tear yourself away from blowing kisses at yourself in the mirror. You can't debate, you're not funny, and you're about as interesting as a jelly, tuna fish and shiit sandwich. It smells bad, tastes bad, and is slimy and slithery. Just like your posts on this thread.

fintstone 09-05-2016 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9268688)
Sad, lonely man with nothing to do, huh. Living in a delusional world of lies and low character. Apology? To you, Fint? Go suck monkey diicks. Get a life and get laid on occasion if you can tear yourself away from blowing kisses at yourself in the mirror. You can't debate, you're not funny, and you're about as interesting as a jelly, tuna fish and shiit sandwich. It smells bad, tastes bad, and is slimy and slithery. Just like your posts on this thread.

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 9268418)
...That makes him a stand up guy in my book.

See what I mean? A stand up guy doesn't make such posts. Why would I agree not to respond to that? This is his typical behavior when he disagrees with your position and he seems to think it is appropriate. It is one thing to disagree and another to behave in this manner. Why should I pardon it? Your doing so just encourages him to continue to do the same. It is bad enough that folks have to put up with this in PARF (which was designed to discuss politics and religion, not to throw childish tantrums).

I wonder if he talks to his family or associates in this way?

EMJ 09-05-2016 06:09 AM

You like to punch, but you don't like to get punched back. Entitled, much? Grow a set. I called a truce but you wanted to continue. Quit calling me out and I'll stop responding.

Let's just say I do okay in the business and family department.

fintstone 09-05-2016 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9268723)
You like to punch, but you don't like to get punched back. Entitled, much? Grow a set. I called a truce but you wanted to continue. Quit calling me out and I'll stop responding.

You asked for "a truce" yet continued the same boorish behavior. As I posted earlier, I will continue to respond until you decide you have had enough. No one is calling you out...but, this is the internet where others are allowed to have their own ideas and defend them. It should be without others misrepresenting their opinion and without constant threats and name-calling. Act like an adult and you will be treated like one.

EMJ 09-05-2016 06:32 AM

YOU kept on posting after I called a truce. Sick liar. Keep begging - no one is coming to your defense. Low character guy. As KC said: let it go.

fintstone 09-05-2016 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by EMJ (Post 9268749)
YOU kept on posting after I called a truce. Sick liar. Keep begging - no one is coming to your defense. Low character guy. As KC said: let it go.

You offered a truce. I offered and agreed to nothing...as you were the one with the poor behavior. I have no obligation to cease defending myself or my actions because you "offered a truce."

Even if I had agreed to your "truce" which I clearly did not; because I realized that I would be obliged to keep it and you would not (as we both view honorable behavior quite differently)...that would still not obligate me not to respond when the topic comes up. In fact, I have only responded to you and others who have addressed the topic and reserve the right to continue to do so. Even so, you cannot seem to make a post without the childish name-calling and misrepresenting the facts. It is rather amazing to me that you would believe you can act like this and then when you tire of your tantrum, expect that I would be fine with forgiving you without any contrition on your part. That would be tantamount to agreeing that I had sunk to your level in this debate...which I certainly did not.

As far as my defense, I don't think I need anyone coming to my defense. I am capable of defending myself (I am sure that some are quietly enjoying the train wreck). If that is how you judge your behavior, you are using a poor metric.

You can stop any time you choose.

RANDY P 09-05-2016 07:15 AM

Jeezus. Unless you were there, how the hell you gonna estimate whether or not the guy is real?

It's simple- if you get a good vibe from the buyer (sounds like an adult and not a kid) and you offer a concession because the phone isn't exactly ringing off the hook, you gamble and give the guy a break. Everyone does it.

If he sounds like an ass hole or is telling stories, you give no breaks.

You take your chances based on estimation of the buyer's character. If your gut says he's gonna do it you play ball, if not take a hike or worse, be a dick and raise the price.

That simple.

PS Selling a house over advertised value is perfectly legit as long as you made no promises to sell elsewhere for less- not like that's a real example because if you are selling a house, earnest money and a Purchase and Sale contract signed would make you liable if you backed out and raised the price anyhow. Apples and Oranges.

rjp

RANDY P 09-05-2016 07:25 AM

PS, if I under listed something with nothing but a informal promise to hold it, for a LARGE gain in profit YA I would raise the price. If it's chump change, let it go. Someone called me and MADE me promise to hold a price (with no money down) and I found out later I grossly underlisted it? Unless that buyer is right there, right at the moment I discovered my error?

Price goes up.

I would expect anyone in my shoes to understand, it's a large sum of money. Unless I know the guy, I have no obligations.

PS you're being a ****ty buyer calling everyone up and asking to hold items with no money down. I likely wouldn't allow it (better for both buyer and seller) unless I knew I had a hard sell on my hands, but at that point what's the difference whether or not they showed?

No money down = not serious. End of story.

rjp


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