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vbaron 09-02-2016 05:32 PM
My FB picture :

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1472866324.jpg

widebody911 09-02-2016 05:33 PM
Install F.B. Purity - Clean up and Customize Facebook

fintstone 09-02-2016 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 9265953)
Clearly they need more OPM funding. [/green]
They had tons of OPM funding. The Air Force taught them how to safely launch satellites for free (in fact we gave them full time personnel from my team to work on their team for free...for years before they were able to do this type work...and for years now, we have heard how the private sector does it better...because they can cut corners and do it cheaper. There is always a price...and in their case, they are willing to accept much more risk for failure than a governmental entity that has to expect to be held up to political scrutiny. We still safely launch satellites all the time. There is just no public fanfare.

widebody911 09-02-2016 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9266222)
Is it any good?
Yes. It lets you eliminate all the advertising and bravo sierra that FB tries to shove at you.

regency 09-02-2016 07:39 PM
don't do the FaceBook thing, I'm holding out for the DisgruntledBook.

Steve

1973 911 T MFI Coupe, Aubergine.

sc_rufctr 09-02-2016 08:08 PM
Facebook is pushing "secure" messaging now. Apparently the messages are encrypted both ways. You really have to ask why?

I'd bet the Gumbits aren't happy about that.

Porsche-O-Phile 09-02-2016 10:44 PM
Good. Fk Facebook. I've never used it and won't. I like what Space-X is doing for aerospace (ditto Virgin Galactic and Scaled Composites) and I'm not a Tesla hater per se but this is the reality of pushing the edge of technology - it's risky and dangerous.

If Facebook (and Google) disappeared tomorrow I'm not convinced the world would be any worse off for it. In fact I'm pretty certain the world would be much BETTER off for it.

tabs 09-03-2016 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9266145)
Sure - advertising is the least subtle. FB's "recommended posts" and Google's top search are exactly what you're talking about, no? The big data analysis will continue to improve. Ugh.
They will tailor the article to appeal to your specific predilections. The wording, the phrasing and the salient points all in order to shape your individual perceptions.

I write a piece using those same techniques to make an impact on and to influence peoples perceptions. When I get involved in a discussion with someone I begin to tailor the response based upon your predilections. Many of which are very subtle and nuanced.

The Big Data interests are more than just heavy handed as they lack the finesse. Or just the how to knowledge.

Holger 09-04-2016 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 9265336)
FB didn't force me to sign up for an account and post photos and stories about myself. And they didn't hold a gun to the government's head and take taxpayer money. They do what any other company would do if it could.
That would not be the bad thing.
The bad thing is that other people might appear on the photos, people maybe not wanting their photo on the internet. Not today, or not in the future. And now they have no way of getting out of it, not today, not in the future.

And you maybe don't post stupid things.
The kids today don't realize how the posts will catch them later on, because everyone tells them that FB/Snapchat/... is such a great thing.
There is no "But think before you post", not from most of the parents, not from society.

Bill Douglas 09-04-2016 11:46 PM
Sometimes it's a good thing - for me. I'm a landlord and occasionally in the past I've had to do some minor detective work to track people down. Facebook is very helpful.

cockerpunk 09-05-2016 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 9265277)
Billionaires at war: 'Disappointed' Mark Zuckerberg hits out at SpaceX after Facebook's $200m satellite explodes but Elon Musk says the cause is 'unknown' as his fortune drops $390m in one day cause of accident | Daily Mail Online



facebook, tesla....these are not things that have improved the world today. they take gov't money and give terrorists a forum for spreading their hate. perhaps the best part is the satellite was to provide facebook access to the middle east.


karma is a *****.
i'd probably put rape, and war above facebook and tesla, but you know ... whos counting?

widebody911 09-05-2016 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9266337)
Facebook is pushing "secure" messaging now. Apparently the messages are encrypted both ways. You really have to ask why?

I'd bet the Gumbits aren't happy about that.
You can bet your sweet bippy there will be an NSA backdoor.

Flieger 09-05-2016 10:59 AM
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Cajundaddy 09-05-2016 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by vbaron (Post 9266217)

Sorta like broadcast TV 60 years ago. Technologically updated of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7t9YlMxWoE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings

flatbutt 09-05-2016 01:47 PM
Meanwhile...
 
'World Watching' as Tribal Members Put Bodies in Path of Dakota Pipeline | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community

techweenie 09-05-2016 02:30 PM
Funny, people helming two consumer products you can choose not to use... are 'humanity's biggest enemies?'

Hyperbole much?

Holger 09-05-2016 10:47 PM
Well as for FB, some (younger) think FB is the internet.
And in Sweden the biggest phone company has released a plan which does not reduce the GB when using 5 or 6 certain social media sites, of which 4 belongs to FB.
This will draw all the younger people, companies and media to that network and we all KNOW they are manipulating the way articles and news are shown.

Tervuren 09-06-2016 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9265821)
They are trying to build a model of your personal pattern of behavior. Once they get enough of data on you they will be able to tailor the content of the information you receive to manipulate your perceptions and behavior. You won't even know it is being done.

They have some problems though as their thinking is very crude. They first have to build a big enough data base (over lots of time) and then sift through the information to see universal patterns develop and then start applying those to the individual. In the application to the individual a lot of nuance is needed. Shadings of gray as it were.

Then we come to the interpretation and perceptions of the idiots who sit behind desks that collect the information have. Having the data is one thing but using it is quite another.

So it comes down to art more than science as numbers lose something in the translation that rings hollow. Human beings first and foremost are emotional creatures where so many variables come into play.

Guess what if I can explain the mechanism to you, I know how it works and can apply those principles, dontcha think?
I felt very manipulated while using face book. I eventually decided it wasn't worth it anymore, and deleted a few years ago.


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