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M.D. Holloway 09-15-2016 01:57 PM

I've not been more proud of my Son...sticking up for a tran
 
These days sure can be confusing with gender identity and all. There is a person in my Son's class that has the genetics and biology of a male yet dresses and identifies as a female. This person dresses like a young women and wears make-up and answers to a womens name. There is a young man in my Son's class that has been bullying this person. Today Max told the kid in class to stop or it or the kid was going to regret it. Not wanting to jeopardize his place on the shooting team if he got in a fight, he did the right thing and went the administration and provide statement explaining the behavior. The bully has been removed from the class. My Son my or may not face other issues form other kids because of this. Sympathizing with trannys in Texas is not the most popular thing to do especially in HS.

When he told me what he did he said "Dad, I don't agree with the idea of a born boy dressing like a chick. Its freaking weird but I really don't like bullys and life must be real confusing for this he/she so I had to do something. I could have pounded the s... into the ground bulling this poor thing but I did what I thought was the right thing. I went to the AP and made a statement saying that this kid was saying some pretty rude things and basically bullying this tranny. It ain't right. I had to do what was right"

You did Max. You did. (tear in eye)

KFC911 09-15-2016 02:03 PM

That's simply awesome...

Bill Douglas 09-15-2016 02:45 PM

In fact the bully may have been a bit confused himself and acting extra macho to compensate.

Oh Haha 09-15-2016 03:28 PM

We've said it before but you guys done good raising him and it shows. It can't be easy being a teenager these days.

Well done Max!

flatbutt 09-15-2016 03:31 PM

Attaboy Max! I get the feeling that should Max face any reprisals he'll be able to handle that just fine...maybe even the old fashioned way.

Don Ro 09-15-2016 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Haha (Post 9282831)
It can't be easy being a teenager these days.

I'll say!
With all the brainwashing they're subjected to.

PetrolBlueSC 09-15-2016 04:05 PM

You are a great Dad and you have a great Kid.

pavulon 09-15-2016 04:11 PM

That's good!

However, you may want to reconsider the term "tranny". :confused:

Bob Kontak 09-15-2016 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 9282888)
However, you may want to reconsider the term "tranny". :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 9282726)
but I really don't like bullys

Ok, cross-dresser?

The bully part is the key.

pavulon 09-15-2016 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9282901)
The bully part is the key.

I understand the point of the story.

It simply strikes me as at least ironic (but closer to worse) that a derogatory term would be used to describe the person being bullied.

disclaimer: I'm far from perfect myself and am not trying to be a jerk but thought the point was relevant considering M.D. has authored a few books in which terminology plays a prominent role.

Bob Kontak 09-15-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 9282907)
I understand the point of the story.

It simply strikes me as at least ironic (but closer to worse) that a derogatory term would be used to describe the person being bullied.

disclaimer: I'm far from perfect myself and am not trying to be a jerk but thought the point was relevant considering M.D. has authored a few books in which terminology plays a prominent role.

What would be an acceptable term? I honestly don't know.

Trans-gender? MD did say trans which is not stand alone inflammatory, at least from what little I know about this territory.

jyl 09-15-2016 04:39 PM

Good for Max. Growing up into a fine man.

pavulon 09-15-2016 04:40 PM

I'd say the term person works well. If it were my kid or relative, I'd be good with 'person'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9282927)
What would be an acceptable term? I honestly don't know.

Trans-gender? MD did say trans which is not stand alone inflammatory, at least from what little I know about this territory.


Bob Kontak 09-15-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 9282930)
I'd say the term person works well. If it were my kid or relative, I'd be good with 'person'.

"Person" does not describe the unique situation. This is not in any way routine.

This person - and then you have to add "who dressed up like a girl".

Are you thinking no on the gender business clarification?

Honestly, I am stable right now. Been taking my anti-a-hole meds and everything.

Just sincerely curious. No downside.

302340 09-15-2016 05:11 PM

Good for him!

This is what happens when it goes all wrong. ...

Trans teacher to MPS days before suicide: “I’m being subtly bullied and it’s taking a toll on my health” | FOX6Now.com

Lee

creaturecat 09-15-2016 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9282927)
What would be an acceptable term? I honestly don't know.

Trans-gender? MD did say trans which is not stand alone inflammatory, at least from what little I know about this territory.

here you go:

Transgender: A term for people whose gender identity, expression or behavior is different from those typically associated with their assigned sex at birth. Transgender is a broad term and is good for non-transgender people to use. "Trans" is shorthand for "transgender." (Note: Transgender is correctly used as an adjective, not a noun, thus "transgender people" is appropriate but "transgenders" is often viewed as disrespectful.)

Bob Kontak 09-15-2016 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 9282982)
here you go:

Transgender: A term for people whose gender identity, expression or behavior is different from those typically associated with their assigned sex at birth. Transgender is a broad term and is good for non-transgender people to use. "Trans" is shorthand for "transgender." (Note: Transgender is correctly used as an adjective, not a noun, thus "transgender people" is appropriate but "transgenders" is often viewed as disrespectful.)

This makes sense. Thank you for the clarification work.

I don't see where MD stepped out of bounds in his description. A sensitive expression, actually. Personally, I would drop "Fruit Loop" all day long in casual conversation, given my sorry prejudiced ass. Taking a second to think fair, trans seems pretty ok.

I don't know how you can remove the basis for the bullying without some form of description, pavulon.

fastfredracing 09-15-2016 05:29 PM

Strong moral fabric in that kid . You guys have done well.

recycled sixtie 09-15-2016 05:35 PM

Max did well. Credit to you and your wife as well. You must have instilled good values.:)


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