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winders 10-07-2016 01:29 PM
I am not all upset that Apple is not supporting my 2008 computer with the latest OS. The system is 8 years old! I am very pleased that my system has been so bullet proof and has performed so well that I had not considering replacing it until now!

I have never used a FireWire device on my 2008 Mac Pro.

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 9310196)
It's not always common. The end user is not microsofts customer, the computer manufacturer typically is.

Apple has traditionally treated the end user as their customer, and has avoided these games in the past
To a point.

They've been really good about not disrupting users even through two rather significant architecture changes.

Was not a simple thing to keep peoples software / hardware investments viable through the swith from x86 to PPC then to Intel.

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by winders (Post 9310205)

I have never used a FireWire device on my 2008 Mac Pro.
Why not? It was so much better than USB.

winders 10-07-2016 02:50 PM
Everything I use is internal or doesn't matter. The keyboard and mouse are on USB and the printer is on Ethernet. The monitor plugs into the video card and the speakers plug into the sound port.

Charles Freeborn 10-07-2016 02:54 PM
My G4 tower (which I still have for the sole purpose of running a SCSI scanner) was rendered obsolete by the switch to Intel processors - which meant no Snow Leopard upgrade for it....
I think USB 3.0 is meant to be competitive with firewire - and yes adapters can be had... but a shiny new iMac...ooooohhhh.....me want....

stomachmonkey 10-07-2016 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 9310312)
...I think USB 3.0 is meant to be competitive with firewire....
Because everyone just see's theoretical throughput and thinks it's on par but that's not the whole story and ignores the primary advantage of firewire.

A firewire device requires no common processor.

You can plug any two firewire devices together and they can communicate / function collaboratively and independent of a PC.

That's actually dependent on the devices of course, they have to have a need for each others functions, a firewire NIC is useless to a digital camera if the camera does not have a network stack.

But what results from that is consistent throughput because you are not dependent on available CPU cycles or affected by processes that drag the host system down.

Plus you can daisy chain it and no SCSI voodoo to deal with.

widgeon13 10-08-2016 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9310143)
Navigate to where pics are stored.

Do a visual and see if they are there.

Off the top of my head it could be anything from the library being corrupt and needing a rebuild to missing thumbnails.

Quit Photos.

Hold Option+Command while launching Photos.

Rebuild option should pop up.
Repair library didn't do anything but it turns out if I rotate one of the exclamation point pics, the image appears. If I rotate it back the image stays. Crazy. I'm guessing there will be an update to correct this problem, hopefully.


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