Tesla Burns and Explodes

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by cairns

For some reason the WSJ is reporting today that less than 30% of those invited to take delivery of their Model 3s actually take delivery.

Can't imagine why.......

Specifically, the early Model 3 cars were optioned out. If you wanted it, you had to pay for the car plus the options which raised the price by 30-50% or so, above base.

[red-beard]

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/tesla-recalls-123-000-model-s-cars-over-bolt-issue-1522361482

[Holger]

To be honest, we should not discuss if cars can burn or not. We should discuss awareness while driving. Reading FB while driving is dangerous, and the more dangerous if the car is autonomous driving IMHO.

[pmax]

Gotta post this somewhere !

[Embraer]

The widow of the guy in this crash is my nextdoor neighbor

[petrolhead611]

My daughter's Cayman base price was two thirds the final price and she didn't over option, so it's not just Tesla cars that happens with

[Captain Ahab Jr]

I'm sure when people went from travelling by horses to a car it was the end of the world and people were worried they were going to die in a fire ball of flammable fuel

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by pmax

Gotta post this somewhere !

Now that is "venting with fire"!!!!

[beepbeep]

Originally Posted by pmax

Sure, but this below was also caused by a design defect.

Arguably, it was defect of badly repaired DC-10 dropping metal pieces on a runway that Concorde run over...?

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr

I'm sure when people went from travelling by horses to a car it was the end of the world and people were worried they were going to die in a fire ball of flammable fuel

Probably had some fires back then but the car was a better means of day to day transportation, no question.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

So if it was an ugly old lady it would be no big deal?

What about some really ugly fat dude that was 16?

I get your point.

I'm pretty sure an actuarial table would put the value of the ugly old lady at significantly less than the 16 year old. They do put relative values on people's lives.

Several years ago my good friend's daughter was killed in a crosswalk by a driver who wasn't paying attention. My friend sued him, but dropped the suit in disgust when his lawyer said, "Too bad it wasn't her brother. Boys are worth a lot more in court than girls."
That may have changed some as women's wages and career opportunities have improve in the past 40 years, but still ....

[pmax]

Originally Posted by beepbeep

Arguably, it was defect of badly repaired DC-10 dropping metal pieces on a runway that Concorde run over...?

In the Concorde's case, the upgrades to the gas tank addressed part of that defect, rupture from overpressure when the tire debris impacted but still, the proximity to a source of ignition was the big unsolvable issue. In the current crop of electric cars, given the fuel tank is distributed "everywhere", any impact is that more likely to reach it and be a source of ignition. The design for range is at the expense of safety, interesting parallels here between the two.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Now that is "venting with fire"!!!!

"No one expected it to happen again"



The reignition and disposal issues are unsolved at scale.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by beepbeep

Arguably, it was defect of badly repaired DC-10 dropping metal pieces on a runway that Concorde run over...?

It wasn't metal that punctured the Tank. It was rubber from the tire. And it happened a bunch of times between 1979 and 2001.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/17/concorde.world

Runway alerts
Concorde has had some 70 tyre or wheel related incidents. Seven have led to serious damage and could have ended in catastrophe:
• June 15 1979 Two tyres on Air France plane burst at Washington. Debris blows large hole in wing, damaging wiring and hydraulic systems and puncturing fuel tanks
• July 21 1979 Air France plane leaving Washington blows tyre. Hydraulic lines and cables cut. Fuel tanks leak as plane makes emergency landing
• August 9 1981 BA plane taking off from New York has blowout, damaging landing gear door, engine, fuel tank
• November 15 1985 Tyre bursts on BA plane leaving Heathrow. Damage to landing gear door, holing fuel tank. Two engines damaged
• January 29 1988 BA plane leaving Heathrow loses 10 bolts from landing gear wheel, puncturing fuel tank
• July 17 1993 Tyre bursts on BA plane at Heathrow, damaging landing gear, wing, fuselage and wiring
• October 25 1993 Tyre bursts on BA plane at Heathrow, damaging fuel tank. Wing punctured, fuel leaks