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Look what we bought today
 Not on everyone's list I know, but I've always wanted one. Not sure if this is a 409 or a 348. Has three deuces manifold, we have the carbs for it. Carters I think. We're excited on this, (so far) 
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A friend in high school (MANY years ago) had a '60 Impala with 348 and 3 deuces. Didn't all the 409s come with dual Carter AFB 4 barrels ??
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awesome and a heck of a coinky-dink.
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Super cool! 348 or 409?
Oops ^ hadn't read enough to get to the "not sure if it's a 348 or 409" part. 3x2, very cool. I know they had a 409hp 409 in '65, but i think that was a 2x4 setup.
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11-15-2016, 03:31 PM
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Could be either one. 348s had dipstick on driver side, 409s had it on pass side - (pretty sure its that way) but the oil pan will bolt to either engine. Think you should run the block casting #s to be sure
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Google's an amazing thing.
Block casting numbers - 348-409.com Year used: 1958-1961 Model: Passenger car Engine: 348 Horsepower: 250,280,305,340,350 Bore: 4.125 Stroke: 3.25 Main Journal: 2.50 Rod Journal: 2.20
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Pretty sure the 348's can be bored to 409 equivalent, but has to done by someone who has the tooling and experience as the deck is slanted .....................
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The 348 sized engines had the 3 duces and the 409 sized had either a single 4 barrel and dual 4 barrels as a special order. The single 4 barrel 409 could also have an automatic but the dual engine had a hotter cam and 4 speed transmission and posi-traction rear end.
In all cases the 348 or 409 were actually made for light trucks and could only make power up to 6500 RPM or so. |
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She's real fine. Oh wait- she's real great...
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As usual, JB puts his special touch on it.
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My nick name usta' be Stein 09.
The big problem with the 09 were the rods & main bearing being the same size of a 283.
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^^^^^^Yes that's correct - The few "W" motors I saw as a kid had holes in the side of the block. It was largely due to very heavy piston design using complicated shaped tall / slanted domes to achieve high compression. Kinda like Porsches 3.2 - repeated trips to the red line will yield failed rod bolts / bearings on the big end
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Leave it to GM to put 2.2" rod journals in a 250 trillion horsepower engine. "Year used: 1958-1961 Model: Passenger car Engine: 348 Horsepower: 250,280,305,340,350 Bore: 4.125 Stroke: 3.25 Main Journal: 2.50 Rod Journal: 2.20 "
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There just wasn't enough meat in those cranks.....they bent when S... Happens. The salvable bits of the bottom ends were few and all needed checking/rework. 409 cranks weren't cheap.....if you could find one. Naturally, my first engine rebuild was one of those suckers.
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GM & Ford both experimented with & produced engines in the mid 50's where the combustion chamber was in the piston, the cylinder head (valve side)was flat as a board - like a diesel engine..........
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