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Por_sha911 01-02-2017 07:08 AM

Another attack from the infamous Pit Bull breed
 
At least 3 injured after owner tries to put sweater on pit bull | Fox News

Two observations:
-The owners are idiots to try and put a sweater on a pit bull.
-All the pit bull lovers will, yet again, defend the dog and say there is nothing dangerous with the breed. It is just another isolated case (for the millionth time).

Baz 01-02-2017 07:14 AM

Euthanize the humans....problem solved!

Baz 01-02-2017 07:17 AM

Out of all three....which ones do you think are the dumb ones.....

http://rollingout.com/wp-content/upl...n-scarface.jpg

Named their dog "Scarface"?

SMH......

recycled sixtie 01-02-2017 07:18 AM

Simply put dogs are a reflection of the owner. Another shining example.

billybek 01-02-2017 07:21 AM

Some doggies are not good doggies.

Some of the doggies humans are not good humans....

stealthn 01-02-2017 07:38 AM

Stabbed, tranquilized, tazered and hit with bean bags, that's one tough dog.

Mike80911 01-02-2017 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 9416715)
Simply put dogs are a reflection of the owner. Another shining example.

Exactly look at the picture of the owner seems to have quite the attitude. I bet he raised his dog to reflect himself.
I was walking down the street the other day and saw a woman with her husband and a baby in a stroller. She was walking with a pit bull on a leash. I guess she did not like the way the dog was walking so she kicked the dog as hard as she could in the stomach. I was hoping the dog would respond in kind and bite her leg off but no such luck. I called the police but by the time they arrived they were long gone.

MBAtarga 01-02-2017 08:14 AM

Hey - someone left out this happened in Florida!

pavulon 01-02-2017 08:15 AM

Floriduh. Would bet money they selfied afterwards.

javadog 01-02-2017 09:18 AM

Any dog, even a pit bull, will give you a warning to not continue doing something that makes it feel threatened. Ignore these warnings at your own peril. The dog gives you an out... he can't make you take it.

Most dog owners are idiots. They might be well-meaning idiots but they know about as much about how a dog thinks as they do quantum physics. Essentially nothing... The bad news is what they think they know about dog behavior is probably mostly the opposite of how a dog might view it.

I'm amazed at how well dogs read body language in other dogs. They process information insanely quickly and see so many subtle things we don't.

The two idiots in Florida don't need to be dog owners. God forbid they should both be fertile and reproduce their genes.

According to data complied by the CDC, there's an average of something like 12,000 dog bites per day. Sounds like a lot, until you work out that it represents about one in every 26,000 people, per day. Guess which one the mainstream media talks about and the one that gets passed on by less-than-informed readers? Yep, the one with the pit bull in it...

JR

ckelly78z 01-02-2017 09:36 AM

We used to raise Wolf Hybrids (mixed with malamute) and show them at regional events. We did this for about 15 years with no incidents, or accidents, so we are used to handling BIG dogs (our big female was 7' long from nose to tip of her tail, and 125#).

The only time I have ever been nervous around a dog was whan a pitbull was wandering loose on our farm, and a little too aggresive. I know people that have bitten by dogs before, but it seems the only ones who were mauled, was by pitbulls, and every one of thier respective owners claimed that the dog was "just a big baby, and wouldn't hurt a fly".

I think it's an ego problem of some of the owners who want an intimidating dog, and don't realize what they have when they buy a puppy.

SiberianDVM 01-02-2017 10:12 AM

Some of the gentlest dogs I ever treated, and some of the most vicious, were pitbulls. An intact male was much more likely to be dangerous, and could be totally unpredictable.

vash 01-02-2017 10:31 AM

putting a sweater on any dog is pretty ridiculous, but i get it..your dog, your whimsical wishes..whatever.

i do however think a dog should be able to endure some of our wishes..like clipping nails, cleaning an ear, etc. it shouldnt attack. in total this story sucks.

i dont know the whole story, but unlike BAZ, i dont wish death to the owners and i dont interpret any deeper meaning from the photo of the owners. i wont profile them from the image.

Por_sha911 01-02-2017 12:03 PM

The whole thing about "its all about how the dog is raised blah blah blah..." is all fine and dandy. Nitro glycerin can be handled without incident but it is way to volatile. The same with Pit Bulls. Some are OK but the breed lends it to be dangerous and when something goes bad it goes bad in a big way. Ownership should be restricted to those who have permits just like with other dangerous animals.

Tobra 01-02-2017 12:21 PM

I can pretty well guarantee you that the sort of people who would get a license to have a dog like that are not going to be the ones having this sort of problem. With the story in question, I expect it is an unaltered male pit bull mix that lived a short, miserable life chained up beside their trailer before it turned on them when the RBT chick would not take the hint that he did not want the damn sweater. Sad to say, but getting put down was about the most merciful thing probably ever happened to that dog.

cstreit 01-02-2017 01:12 PM

Seems to me that every time you see one one these attacks, the other thing that is common is that the dog owners are neglectful d-bags. I suspect they *buy* the breed knowing it could be turned mean. ...but then any animal can be made mean through abuse. The Pit simply has better tools to do destruction when it does IMO

Crowbob 01-02-2017 01:28 PM

So most dogs were bred to do something specific, right? Retrieve, guard, herd, etc. what were Pit Bull Terriers bred to do?

gsxrken 01-02-2017 01:52 PM

The nastiest dog I know is a collie. It was raised from a puppy by a family who has had many dogs for many years. Some dogs are just not nice. When they happen to be pit bulls, they're more capable of enough injury to get into the media. I don't know if it happens more or if you just hear about it when it does.

Alan A 01-02-2017 02:01 PM

Fight other dogs. And they were very very selectively bred - they needed to be able to be handled even when injured. A big pitbull is a 45lb dog.

The problem is that they have been crossed with Molosser breeds, to turn them into something better suited for guarding or protection. Those are less inclined to accept rough handling, and have the size to express their displeasure forcefully. An angry bull mastiff is truly a sight to behold.

But because they are muscular and have short muzzles all dogs that look even vaguely like one are pit bulls. The DNA tests I've seen are fascinating - saw one yesterday that you'd swear was a pit, but turned out to be 25% miniature poodle.

Hey this is America, who needs facts - our soon to be ex-president is all black, remember. Genetics is just a word, image is what matters.

fastfredracing 01-02-2017 02:11 PM

My friends last Pit Bull, was the kindest . most gentle , loving and protective dog I have ever known.
I remember being afraid to bring my son around when he was little. It ended up being cute how protective that pit was of my son . We were at the ocean when my son was a baby. Whenever we would put my boy in the surf, the dog would freak , and try to get between my son and the incoming waves, and push him back to dry land . Really nice dog , in his entire life, never bit , or snapped at anyone.
Unfortuneately , he passed, and Todd got a new Pit Bull. He got him as a rescue, thinking he could turn him into a nice dog like his last
I am scared to death of the thing. It has one mission in life, and that is to eat me.
Mean as hell, it has bit nearly everybody that has regular contact .
My buddy is having a baby, and I am begging him to get rid of the dog . He won't listen . I hope I am wrong

Jeff Higgins 01-02-2017 02:18 PM

What color was the sweater?

87maniac 01-02-2017 02:33 PM

Owners of dangerous animals MUST be accountable.

"Connecticut woman mauled by Travis the chimp in 2009,
is back in the hospital for facial transplant rejection"...

Describing (the 200lb chimp) as 'my son', (the owner) fought back tears
as she said: 'He looked at me like, "What did you do?". A police officer
who responded to the scene of the attack shot and killed Travis (the Chimp)
when he clawed open the cop’s cruiser door and flashed his bloody teeth.

She later tried to sue the state of Connecticut in 2014, pointing
to a state memo written a year before the gruesome attack that
described Travis the chimp as “an accident waiting to happen.”
She was denied the right to sue.

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Crowbob 01-02-2017 06:16 PM

So let me get this straight. These dogs were bred to fight other dogs. Why would anybody think it a good idea to own one of these things? To expose children to it, no less.

I had a Doberman once from a pup. The most beautiful, athletic, intelligent and obedient dog you can imagine. Problem was that he placed himself in the beta position of the pack. That dog was not controllable by anyone when I wasn't around. This did not go over well with the stranger lady who knocked on our door while I was at work and ignored my wife's pleas to beware of the dog and step back off the porch. That dog bolted dragging my wife with him...

We put that beautiful, happy and proud dog down the very next day. We really had no idea what a liability he was. 'Wouldn't hurt a flea.'

Bill Douglas 01-02-2017 06:31 PM

LOL, I saw an interesting situation on the beach the other day. A pitbull took a dislike to a very poofy looking large poodle. He was chasing it up and down the beach and looked really angry. The poodle was doing a left left right then snapped into a 180 and the same again back down the beach. After about two minutes of this (a two minute round) the pitbull got tired and lost his edge then the poodle turned on him grabbed him around the throat, dragged him down and mauled him. Then to add the icing to the cake the two owners separated them and Quentin was made to sit and was told off while the pitbull got another hammering.

Crowbob 01-02-2017 06:48 PM

Peter,

What the he...what do guns...Oh nevermind.

Yes, there truly are mysteries, Peter.

Jeff Higgins 01-02-2017 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9417458)
Hmmm. Sounds like an argument I've made before that people can't explain, beyond their right to do so. Silliness.

<I>So let me get this straight. These guns were made to kill people. Why would anybody think it a good idea to own one of these things? To expose children to it, no less. </I>

A complete and utter mystery, isn't it?

No, it isn't.

Guns have no capacity to act independently. They are entirely predictable, operating in precisely the manner their handlers command with monotonous dependability. They are simply incapable of striking out on their own, of exercising their own free will. They are absolutely subservient, and subject to, the will of their owners.

As such, they are exceedingly useful objects. We can use them to defend ourselves from those who mean us harm. We can use them to hunt, to feed ourselves. Rural Americans use them every day to control pests and vermin on their properties. The list of legitimate uses goes on and on, well beyond just "killing people".

So, yes, many of us can explain gun ownership "beyond our right to do so". You may not want to listen, you may simply discount our arguments as "silliness", but that in no way serves to reduce their validity.

Your eagerness to discount gun owners' arguments as "silliness", coupled with your apparent inability to differentiate between a living, breathing, thinking animal with a will of its own and a cold, lifeless, metal object is just a bit troubling. I don't think you really thought this one through.

Alan A 01-02-2017 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9417458)
Hmmm. Sounds like an argument I've made before that people can't explain, beyond their right to do so. Silliness.

<I>So let me get this straight. These guns were made to kill people. Why would anybody think it a good idea to own one of these things? To expose children to it, no less. </I>

A complete and utter mystery, isn't it?

How about so that if someone decides to try to harm me I have something with which I can defend myself that was designed for exactly that purpose?

But back to the dogs. Mine's lying on his bed snoring.
My children are in bed, having survived another day without being eaten. Licked a bit, but not eaten. Guess the flavor wasn't right.

creaturecat 01-02-2017 08:11 PM

i've been bitten on two separate occasions, while out hiking. nothing serious, a decent nip, nevertheless.
both dogs were Rottweilers.
the owners couldn't have cared less, in either case.

Por_sha911 01-02-2017 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 9417060)
I can pretty well guarantee you...

It is amazing how you can guarantee such accurate information with so little evidence. I think you may be looking through Pit Bull loving shaded glasses.

Tobra 01-02-2017 09:05 PM

Or you could just wear regular glasses and look at the picture.

Por_sha911 01-02-2017 09:15 PM

Your justification is rather shallow. I remember a time when people judged someone by the color of their skin too.

berettafan 01-03-2017 06:03 AM

I can't understand people who insist on owning breeds known to have these tendencies. they seem convinced they alone can fight evolution and DNA. if you're that darn smart perhaps you could spend some time working on curing cancer instead of trying to convince your neighbors that you are somehow sophisticated because you have some deep appreciation of a particular breed.

Tobra 01-03-2017 06:14 AM

I was talking about the picture of the dog.

People still judge others by the color of their skin, every day, all over the world. Perhaps not every day, but you do too, though I doubt you would ever admit it.

River bottom trash can be any color Joe

javadog 01-03-2017 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 9417425)
So let me get this straight. These dogs were bred to fight other dogs.

No, not exactly. They were bred from a larger group of dogs in the working class. Some of these dogs were originally used in hunting, to chase down prey and hold it until the hunter could get there and kill it. English bulldogs were also part of this group, although you wouldn't know it today from their general lazy demeanor, as they have been further bred and are really not like bulldogs of yore.

Pit bulls were then used by their dip**** owners to participate in a sport known as bull baiting (along with other dog breeds) and that morphed through a few iterations of other blood sports into dog fighting. It's worth noting that the dogs weren't really the bad guys in this scenario, it was the worthless humans that wagered on this horse**** that trained the dogs to fight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 9417752)
I can't understand people who insist on owning breeds known to have these tendencies. they seem convinced they alone can fight evolution and DNA. if you're that darn smart perhaps you could spend some time working on curing cancer instead of trying to convince your neighbors that you are somehow sophisticated because you have some deep appreciation of a particular breed.

I hate to be the one to have to break the news to you that all dogs have an inbred ability to kill things. Give them a toy and watch them play with it. Sooner or later, you'll see them shake it, like they are trying to wring it's neck. Soon after that, they'll be chewing on it. This behavior isn't unique to dogs; any number of species knows how to kill prey and eat it. That's how they existed before they got on the gravy train and no longer had to worry about where their next meal was coming from.

It you think it takes a pit bull to maim someone, think again. Any large dog can shred you in short order. I ran across a video last week of a K9 Shepard that took a fleeing suspect down to the ground and within less than half a minute had done hideous damage to the guy's lower leg. What was shocking to me was that its handler didn't pull him off the guy, even though he was down on the ground and had numerous police officers pinning him to the ground. It was barbaric and I have to be critical of the police response to what was no longer any kind of threat to them.

I find it ironic how so many people fail to understand that genetics is only a small part of dog behavior. How they are raised, trained and treated plays a huge role in their behavior and that's usually where the blame lies when things go bad.

JR

javadog 01-03-2017 08:05 AM

By the way, you are 5 times more likely to die from setting your clothes on fire than from a dog biting you.

Perhaps you should run around naked.

JR

javadog 01-03-2017 08:14 AM

Here's a recent pic from the dog thread. Those of you that are not dog savvy, please comment on all of the things you see in this picture that are obvious to dogs and apparently not obvious to the clueless fool that took this picture and thought it was cute:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1483460077.jpg

Crowbob 01-03-2017 08:24 AM

Well at least you aren't in total denial, Java. I agree that usually a dog's raising, treatment and training are the causes of mauling. Key word is USUALLY.

Do Pitts get a bad rap? Of course. But my own experience is that dogs are unpredictable. Any dog genetically predisposed to mortal combat is not a good idea. Nor is running around naked, usually.

Baz 01-03-2017 08:35 AM

JR posted some valuable information. Most humans are totally clueless about dogs. There is a small percentage who "get it".

Funny thing is....a dog will love a human unconditionally. If they are not "Man's Best Friend"...I don't know who is.

http://www.masspaws.org/images/10-Ca...mmandments.jpg


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