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[MMiller]

I would consider giving them more than 2 weeks. It is really hard to find quality people to replace quality people and get them any training in two weeks. 30days is more like the minimum time to get that done.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by Macroni

Would you stay if they match Salary and benefits?

You can hint that you are thinking about leaving and start a conversation with your manager early, but not when you drop your resignation off! If they counter then, it is emergency management. Then they know you aren't loyal and that they need to replace you soon.

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[Alan A]

If you need to leave to get a raise you need to leave.

What are the notice periods in your contract, or are you in an at will state?
When my wife handed in two weeks notice a few years back they told her to leave immediately and then said they weren't going to pay her notice period. Took the threat of an unfair dismissal suit to make them change their mind about that, so I'm more of the mind that if I'm leaving I'm handing notice at 4pm on a Friday because I've already made my mind up that I'm going.

Plus if I can get laid off at any time it seems fair to return the favor.

[wdfifteen]

Speaking as an employer.
Assuming you work for a professionally managed company, act like a professional yourself and give them the courtesy of at least two weeks notice. They will understand that you need to leave for whatever reasons - you probably aren't the first - and they will want a smooth transition as much as you do. BTW you aren't obligated to tell they why you are leaving and from an employer's point of view I don't care unless it illuminates a problem I need to deal with.

[wdfifteen]

On the other hand you could take the advice of a remote relative of mine ...

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by JacobS911

Quit in a fiery blaze of glory for our entertainment!!

Whoa!! I responded before I read the blue ribbon response! F*ck Yeah!!
If your departure/body recovery isn't accompanied by a SWAT team, an armored police personnel carrier, and a police helicopter you're a pussy!

JK you know,

[Robert Adams]

9 years is a long time to work for the same company these days. The fact you’re current employer seems to be going through a brain drain, you might prepare yourself for an improved package offer from them if asked. It was mentioned earlier to have a discussion with your boss about your ‘unhappiness’ with your current situation and have been offered an improved position elsewhere which you are giving serious consideration. I think this is definitely a good idea. I wouldn’t get into any specifics; just indicate its better pay, a few improved benefits (think of some you want) & better hours (shorter commute). This is assuming you more or less work for a decent company and under normal circumstances not a bad place to hang your hat. Most people don’t stay at the same company for 9 years if they hate the place and the people. It’s a natural progression for people to leave, but the fact that company offering the position has a systematic approach of poaching doesn’t speak to their character in a positive light. If nothing comes from your current employer, then give your two weeks and don’t look back. It probably will occur to them, why are all these people going to a competitor and how?? So the bubble may pop sometime down the line and lawsuits will fly.

[Rick Lee]

In a lot of sales jobs, if you give notice, they walk you out the door that day. Last time I gave notice, I was the only person they didn't walk out the door, but they still only let me work eight more days and didn't pay out my vacation. So the next one who quit did it on 12/31 and said that was it, cited my treatment as her reason for no notice.

About 15 yrs. ago I gave notice and they asked what they could do to keep me, gave me a 40% raise on the spot, retroactive to the first of that month. How could I turn that down? Rode that one for another 10 yrs.

Current job requests 30 days notice, but everyone gets emailed a FedEx shipping label as soon as they give notice, so they can mail their laptop back that day.

[gduke2010]

Originally Posted by Macroni

Would you stay if they match Salary and benefits?

Kind of sleaze of other company to steal from your company.... tells you of their ethics.....

I would consider it but, less travel is almost as important.

[wdfifteen]

The last couple of people to leave use gave two weeks notice, but they really got two weeks pay. They were very low level employees and we figured having them around the office as lame ducks with no commitment to us was a bad idea. We paid them and sent them home to a two week paid vay-cay.

[gduke2010]

Originally Posted by DanielDudley

I quit a job because the company was stealing from a client big time. I still gave notice.

They eventually got caught by another client's accountant.

My current company got busted overcharging a client big time. They're reputation was tarnished. That's a reason why I doubt if they could match the other company's benefits.

[gduke2010]

Originally Posted by aigel

You may want to be very careful disclosing that a former employee is recruiting you. Many companies have you sign a document certifying that you will not recruit / solicit or even help current employees find any job for x years. It is tough to prove anything, but if you put it out there, maybe even in writing, they may have a case against your former coworker. Even if there isn't such paperwork, it may be bad for your former coworker's reputation and his ability to continue to find work in the industry if people get wind that he is cleaning out his former company without hesitation.

The only way "things get ugly" is if the current company is concerned that you are working for a competitor and want you out sooner than later, so you don't spend your time recruiting or getting any more information that you already have. Often times they will walk you out on the spot. But a good company may even pay you for the 2 week time, if you offer 2 weeks starting the conversation.

It should NEVER get ugly because of what you do. You take the high road. You found a better opportunity, it was great to work with everyone and you appreciate the long standing relationship. Thank you very much. NO bashing ANYTHING, including in the exit interview with HR.

I know, many of us would rather take a crap on the bosses desk, but that's not how it works!

G

Everyone will be asking questions about my new employment package. I might have to keep that information confidential to both my employer and coworkers

[gduke2010]

Originally Posted by masraum

Meh, completely standard these days. Many/most companies will pay you as little as they can to keep you, then if you're a good employee and they were getting you on the cheap, they'll try to keep you. They should have been paying you all along.

I've known of lots of folks that left one company for a big raise, then a couple of years down the road, went back to the original company for a big raise over what they'd been making at the place they moved to the first time. But if they'd just stayed, they'd have had to work another 50 years to see that sort of salary increase.

Yep, what I'm thinking.

[gduke2010]

Originally Posted by Robert Adams

9 years is a long time to work for the same company these days. The fact you’re current employer seems to be going through a brain drain, you might prepare yourself for an improved package offer from them if asked. It was mentioned earlier to have a discussion with your boss about your ‘unhappiness’ with your current situation and have been offered an improved position elsewhere which you are giving serious consideration. I think this is definitely a good idea. I wouldn’t get into any specifics; just indicate its better pay, a few improved benefits (think of some you want) & better hours (shorter commute). This is assuming you more or less work for a decent company and under normal circumstances not a bad place to hang your hat. Most people don’t stay at the same company for 9 years if they hate the place and the people. It’s a natural progression for people to leave, but the fact that company offering the position has a systematic approach of poaching doesn’t speak to their character in a positive light. If nothing comes from your current employer, then give your two weeks and don’t look back. It probably will occur to them, why are all these people going to a competitor and how?? So the bubble may pop sometime down the line and lawsuits will fly.

I'm hoping that the company will have to become more competitive and the remaining employees will benefit.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by gduke2010

Everyone will be asking questions about my new employment package. I might have to keep that information confidential to both my employer and coworkers

Yes, I'd be telling nobody what the exact plan is, if it is going to a competitor. Just say with all due respect, you don't want to go into details, it will not change your decision if you disclose any more information.

Good Luck!

G

[aigel]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

The last couple of people to leave use gave two weeks notice, but they really got two weeks pay. They were very low level employees and we figured having them around the office as lame ducks with no commitment to us was a bad idea. We paid them and sent them home to a two week paid vay-cay.

Very commonly done. Even at higher levels. A person who is "checked out" can do a lot of damage to the morale on the team. So, unless there is something urgent they need to hand down / finish, HR often sends people on their way. And in a solid company, it will be with a 2 week notice, just like the employee leaving was offering. This is another reason to give 2 weeks. You may actually get an extra 2 weeks pay out of the deal!

G

[Neilk]

So how did it go?

[ckelly78z]

I have heard of many companies letting the person go (walking him out the door) with little notice, the next morning after giving the company a 2 week's notice. Be ready to hit the bricks, and have all of your ducks in a row/personal info, and possesions already out of the building if you choose to do this.

Just because you chose to take the high road doesn't mean that HR will.

[oldE]

All of this talk about being walked to the door makes me remember my very different experience from 2003. My boss advised me my position was ending in 8 months but they had a package to carry me 8 months beyond that.
Very nice.
I had no idea what I would do after that, but it led to the best gig I have ever had.
Hope everything works out for you.
Best
Les

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

I have heard of many companies letting the person go (walking him out the door) with little notice, the next morning after giving the company a 2 week's notice. Be ready to hit the bricks, and have all of your ducks in a row/personal info, and possesions already out of the building if you choose to do this.

When I was the Chief Government Test Pilot at the Sikorsky Factory as soon as you declared your intent to leave, a guard escorted you to your desk with movers and packed you out...all badges, access to Sikorsky computer networks and company equipment taken and you were escorted to your car and watched as you drove off the property.

Same when folks were laid off or fired except the guard and movers just showed up and then the employee was taken to HR.

I asked why. Apparently, and I was never able to get hard evidence, a fired employee once changed engineering specs on some drawings before he left.

Hope everything went well.