Great quarterback, ****ty husband...

Overnight pats fans!


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Wait...what? That line is absolutely pedestrian not a single pro bowler on it, in fact the Patriots only sent 4 players to the pro bowl. Brady, LB Dont’a Hightower, DB Devin McCourty and WR Matthew Slater (special teams) not one other pro bowler on offense. That is what makes him so good, he makes absolutely average or even less than average players look good.

Drew Brees hasn't been able to anything in 7 years even though he has far better weapons. As for Aaron Rogers, he was in the exact same situation against falcons and failed to close the gap. I think Aaron may have been the best quarterback this year, but Brady is the best of all time.

I'm not a fan, nor am I a "hater" which does give me the advantage of being objective. I don't really care about the Patriots, Eagles don't play them enough to hate them

That being said, I am happy that Bill Maher will be disappointed, that is always a bonus



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OK this is a little weird.......I was going through my hallway closet tonight trying to re-organize all the stuff that has accumulated in it over the years. So, there's a gift box of Stetson aftershave/cologne in there - NOS and never opened - a gift for either Christmas or my birthday from a by-gone era. I pull it out and guess who is featured on the outside of the box? Yep....

It's not exactly like this one - mine has 3 components inside - but you get the idea....

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So, is this a collector's item? I doubt it would ever be worth much but you never know what someone will pay for something if they are a fan.

Atlanta is far from the best D in the league.

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OFFENSIVE RANKINGS STAT CATEGORIES
• Score: Self-explanatory - the highest-scoring NFL team will be at the top and the lowest-scoring team at the bottom. You will see the League Average as well.
• Y/PL: Yards per play - a key handicapping indicator that indicates how many yards each NFL team gets per play. Teams at the top typically score more points, generate first downs and win. Teams at the bottom struggle with time of possession and are often regular losers.
• FD - First downs - which NFL team gets the most first downs. Not always an indicator of time of possession or victories (the 2012 Cardinals started 3-0 while ranking 27th in first downs).
• RA - Rushing Attempts - which NFL team runs the ball more than all the others.
• RY - Rushing Yards - rankings of best NFL rushing teams.
• YR - Yards Per Rush - important NFL betting stat, but is sometimes misleading early in the season if a team has faced a poor run defense or has busted out a 98-yard TD run.
• PA - Passing Attempts - most NFL passing attempts per game.
• PY - Passing Yards - most passing yards per team, ranked by each NFL team.
• YP - Yards per Pass - which NFL teams average the most yards per pass.
• Time - Time of Possession - which NFL teams have the best time of possession stats? This is important category and usually means rushing yards and first downs also rank high for this team. It is often a key win indicator.
• TO - Turnovers (not Toronto or Terrell Owens) - which NFL teams commit the fewest turnovers? Which NFL teams turn it over most often?
• Pen - Penalties - This is an overall ranking of which NFL teams take the most penalties (it is NOT broken down by offensive or defensive penalties.
DEFENSIVE RANKINGS STAT CATEGORIES
• Score: Self-explanatory - which NFL teams gives up the fewest points. Said another way, what is the best defensive team. You will see the League Average as well.
• Y/PL: Yards per play - a key handicapping indicator that indicates how many yards each NFL team gives up per play. The lower the number, the better the defense. Fewer yards per play equals fewer first downs and less time of possession for opponents.
• FD - First downs - which NFL defense teams allow the fewest first downs. Not always an indicator of time of possession or victories.
• RA - Rushing Attempts - which NFL defense faces the fewest rushing attempts per game. This can indicate a tough run defense or can indicate that the team's offense scores so many points that opponents are forced to pass more.
• RY - Rushing Yards - rankings of best NFL run-stop defenses.
• YR - Yards Per Rush - which defense allows the fewest yards per rush. This is a major handicapping stat and should be check weekly!
• PA - Passing Attempts - fewest NFL passing attempts per game.
• PY - Passing Yards - which defense allows the fewest passing yards per team, ranked by each NFL team.
• YP - Yards per Pass - which NFL teams allow the least yards per pass.
• Time - Time of Possession - which NFL defenses are on the field the least? Who has the best time of possession stats? This is important category and can mean the defense is very good or it can mean their offense holds the ball very well.
• TO - Turnovers - which NFL teams create the most turnovers? Which NFL teams generate the most takeaways? This is often an opportunistic defense which makes an average team good and a good team excellent.
• Pen - Penalties - This is an overall ranking of which NFL teams take the most penalties (it is NOT broken down by offensive or defensive penalties.

The Pats dismantled a defenses that was below average. I'm a Pats fan, been to a bunch of games growing up and thought the game was amazing but lets not kid ourselves here folks. The Pats lost the first half on their own. Atlanta played well the first half. New England played typical Pats ball the second half. Atlanta defense played typical Falcon defense second half. The Pats D was on the mark 4th Q and into OT. No team can stop the Pats when they play their game. Stats are stats. Always go with the odds makers.

Packer fan here and I'd vote for #4 over Starr.

Side note, I think these Patriots would struggle against Aikman's Cowboys, Young's 49ers or even Kelly's Bills.

For those mentioning Bradshaw, he played on a team with arguably the best defense seen until the Baltimore D that essentially carried them to a super bowl victory. On Offense it didn't hurt having Franco, Swann and Stalworth either. Brady doesn't have that level of weapons on his team on offense.
Win: Brady

From a numbers perspective, Bradshaw is pretty average. He had nearly as many interceptions as touchdowns in his career. Good QB and undoubtably a great competitor, but in terms of numbers and talent, not in the same league as some of the other QBs mentioned. And yes, he also had one of the greatest defenses ever and a fantastic RB.

"Brady is pretty average" ????? You're joking right?? What about most superbowls won? Most TD's ? Most Passing Yds? Most superbowl MVP's ?

What league are you talking about??

whipped, sorry, I reread ur post and saw u mentioned Bradshaw. My brain is still "bradyized" from sunday!!

Let's be honest here. When you look at what the Patriots have done in the age of free agency it makes their accomplishments even more impressive. Then look at what Brady has done with receivers that generally aren't household names and his accomplishments become that much more impressive as well. Most people if asked could probably name Gronk and Brady on the team and few others.

If not for Ryan's critical sack, we may well be discussing Brady's pick-6 and his errant throws. His comeback was magnificent, but the hole he dug his team out of, he had dug, in large part, by himself. That said, I'm not sure anyone else could have done what he did. And he's done it with solid, but not spectacular talents at his side. But I would not discount Bellicheck's contributions to Tom's career. Those two are awesome together, but I don't think we'd be discussing Brady's greatness had he played under someone else.

No doubt the system he plays in makes a big difference.

The same was true with Montana and Walsh. Not a coincidence.

I don't know. Montanna did pretty well with the Chiefs. The guy was good. And I guess if you look at what Manning did as a Colt and then as a Bronco under two different systems an argument could be made.

A couple of years ago I watched a documentary on Brady & Belichick...a lot of the doc. was spent in Belichick's office watching video of upcoming opponents/strategies.
Both had a remote to the system/monitor. Brady had insights and made suggestions that Belichick agreed with. Same as with Manning/Broncos - the rumor was that Manning was a high-value offensive mind and would practically run the meetings.
But that Brady/Belichick documentary demonstrated Brady's total understanding of the game and strategies to suit every situational variation.
And eye opener, for sure.

Mel Blount's impact on the game helped develop that system.